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Old 09-24-2008, 08:39 PM
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She got hands layed on her to pray that she will be protected from witchcraft.

Is that something you agree with?
No. But then again I've taken communion and I don't believe in god either.

The point is we all do nutty things for different reasons. Was Palin a 20 year member of this guys flock? Does she believe this stuff or was she just there that day like when I took communion?

I'm far more concerned with Obamas associations and beliefs than this dumb video.
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She got hands layed on her to pray that she will be protected from witchcraft.

Is that something you agree with?
I think I'll make a voodoo doll of her and see if she IS protected after all...
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I've watched the full version youtube. IT IS JUST AS BAD AS THE SOUNDBITE!

In fact, much of his rhetoric mimics what Osama Bin Laden says in speeches he has given. Think about that.
Don't agree. Sorry.
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My beef with the video was with the endorsement for the most part. I mean, ok, psycho! But it was an obvious political endorsement in a church service. They should take away their non-profit status.
Do you have a problem with Obamas white pastor (Flagin?) insulting Hillary during a sermon during the primaries?

Do you have a beef with all the black churches that are backing Obama and talking about him every Sunday?
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I think I'll make a voodoo doll of her and see if she IS protected after all...
HAHA!!! good idea!
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Don't agree. Sorry.
Then you must agree with Wright. No real person can watch that sermon in full and NOT come away thinking this guy is anti American, racist, and hateful.

Is it becuase he's black you are giving it a pass? If he were white would it come off different?

Why did Obama forcefully call for the firing of Don Imus over that stupid racial joke and yet he is not concerned about the much worse stuff coming out of his own pastors mouth?
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Well, I'm hesitant to point fingers at someone because of their religious practice. What I don't like is that she will probably bring this into the VP office. She's a fundamentalist and will have a hard time separating some of her more extreme views with her office. When it comes to war, social issues, and American freedoms, people like her are the worst. That's what worries me.
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In fact, much of his rhetoric mimics what Osama Bin Laden says in speeches he has given.
Bin Laden gives speeches? How about some examples of similarities.
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Then you must agree with Wright. No real person can watch that sermon in full and NOT come away thinking this guy is anti American, racist, and hateful.

Is it becuase he's black you are giving it a pass? If he were white would it come off different?

Why did Obama forcefully call for the firing of Don Imus over that stupid racial joke and yet he is not concerned about the much worse stuff coming out of his own pastors mouth?
I disagree with you. You sir have misinterpreted those sermons. I'm not giving him a "pass." You sure are self-righteous. Anyway, I'm not going to argue about this with you. You won't change your mind and neither will I.
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I disagree. This crap with Palin is just the left playing GOTCHA! It is a meaningless video which, when played tonight on Olberman, he acted as though he gleefully uncovered Al Capones vault booty.

With Obama it's different. He has actual connections to nasty people (Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Farrakhan), his church supports Hamas and is racist and anti semitic, and Obama himself attended the Million Man March.
A.... They are both playing Gotcha. That's my point. It does not matter in either respect when the issues should be the focus of a presidential campaign.

B.... The response to this is going to be that Palin's connections are just as "nefarious" as any the Republican's tie to Obama. It's all circular logic that does not matter...

C.... What makes any of those people nasty people? Ayer's was a political activist who used questionable means. Not necessarily nasty. Wright is a preacher who espouses the works of god and attempts to lift his audience out of oppressionistic circumstances. Not necessarily nasty. The same goes for Farrakhan, but with a different religion. I might give you Rezko if there was any basis that Obama would be beholden to his views as president, which is the office he's running for.

D.... The million man march was an attempt to force African American men to take pride in themselves and rise above the situations that have lead to oppression and tyranny. Why is that a bad thing?

Again... none of any of this has any bearing on the issues at hand. None. So why bring them up?
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