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I guess TJO missed this one...LOL
The New York Post? I also missed the Weekly World News which is even MORE credible.
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Dick Morris, eh?

Hm.

Has he ever been RIGHT about something?





http://jewishworldreview.com/0108/morris012308.php3
Yea just like the NYTimes and most of the other media you read are campaigning for Obama.
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When All Else Fails Blame The Media! I guess the dozens of newspapers throughout the nation are all campaigning for Obama?
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What great insite does McCain hold on the issue at hand? Does he sit on the committee that is handling this issue? No, so what on Gods green earth could McCain do besides hinder things further?
So let me understand this, if you are on the committee you know what you are doing? What has Chris Dud done for the last two years other than take money from Fannie & Freddie.
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I think it's sweet that you kids are attempting to launch an offensive and defend that which is indefensible... but facts are still facts.

McCain says ONE thing...

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I cannot carry on a campaign as though this dangerous situation had not occurred, or as though a solution were at hand, which it clearly is not. It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal to meet the crisis. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

When something entirely DIFFERENT is TRUE!

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From the Associated Press: Deal said to be near on big financial bailout plan — President Bush is bringing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain into negotiations on a $700 billion rescue of Wall Street as Democrats and Republicans near agreement on a bailout plan with more protections for taxpayers and new help for distressed homeowners. Senior lawmakers and Bush administration officials have cleared away key obstacles to a deal on the unprecedented rescue, agreeing to include widely supported limits on pay packages for executives whose companies benefit.
Now, let me ask you?

Just how stupid do you think the American voter is?

Given what I'm seeing from you guys, you think we're all a bunch of braying morons.
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Dick Morris... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ok, proceed
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So let me understand this, if you are on the committee you know what you are doing? What has Chris Dud done for the last two years other than take money from Fannie & Freddie.
McCain's lead adviser is STILL taking money from Freddy.

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Rick Davis, John McCain's campaign manager, has remained the treasurer and a corporate director of his lobbying firm this year, despite repeated statements by campaign officials that he had ended his relationship with the firm in 2006, according to corporate records.
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So let me understand this, if you are on the committee you know what you are doing? What has Chris Dud done for the last two years other than take money from Fannie & Freddie.
Well to say the least i believe the ladies and gentlemen that have been on top of this issue since its inception have far greater insite than McCain who hasn't even been briefed as to whats going on.

Please don't try to use the Freddy and Fannie argument again, especially when McCain's campaign manager has been accepting payments from the very same firms up until it's collapse...Need proof? Here you go:

McCain aide’s firm was paid by Freddie Mac

WASHINGTON - One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the people said.

They said they did not recall Mr. Davis doing much substantive work for the company in return for the money, other than speak to a political action committee composed of high-ranking employees in October 2006 on the coming midterm congressional elections. They said Mr. Davis’s his firm, Davis & Manafort, was kept on the payroll because of Mr. Davis’s close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who was widely expected by 2006 to run again for the White House.

Mr. Davis took a leave from Davis & Manafort for the duration of the campaign, but as a partner and equity-holder continues to share in its profits. No one at Davis & Manafort other than Mr. Davis was involved in efforts on Freddie Mac’s behalf, the people familiar with the arrangement said.

A Freddie Mac spokeswoman said the company would not comment. Jill Hazelbaker, a spokeswoman for the McCain campaign, did not dispute the payments to Mr. Davis’s firm. But she said that Mr. Davis had stopped taking a salary from his firm by the end of 2006 and that his work did not affect Mr. McCain.

“Senator McCain’s positions on policy matters are based upon what he believes to be in the public interest,” Ms. Hazelbaker said in a written statement.

The revelations come at a time when Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama are sparring over ties to lobbyists and special interests and seeking political advantage in a campaign being reshaped by the financial crisis and the plan to bail out investment firms.

Long history of cultivating allies
Mr. McCain’s campaign has been attacking Senator Barack Obama, his Democratic rival, for his ties to former officials of the mortgage lenders, both of which have long histories of cultivating allies in the two parties to fend off efforts to restrict their activities. Mr. McCain has been running a television commercial suggesting that Mr. Obama takes advice on housing issues from Franklin D. Raines, a former chief executive of Fannie Mae, a contention flatly denied by Mr. Raines and the Obama campaign. Freddie Mac’s roughly $500,000 in payments to Davis & Manafort began immediately after Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in late 2005 disbanded an advocacy coalition that they had set up and hired Mr. Davis to run, the people familiar with the arrangement said.

Between 2000 and the end of 2005, Mr. Davis had received nearly $2 million as president of the coalition, the Homeownership Alliance, which the companies created to help them oppose new regulations and protect their status as federally chartered companies with implicit government backing. That status let them borrow cheaply, helping to fuel rapid growth but also their increased purchases of the risky mortgage securities that were their downfall.

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26859857/
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Dick Morris... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ok, proceed
I imagine before the day is over, we'll see something from NewsMax and World Net Daily or Hotair.com presented as "hard fact and truth."
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Well to say the least i believe the ladies and gentlemen that have been on top of this issue since its inception have far greater insite than McCain who hasn't even been briefed as to whats going on.

Please don't try to use the Freddy and Fannie argument again, especially when McCain's campaign manager has been accepting payments from the very same firms up until it's collapse...Need proof? Here you go:

McCain aide’s firm was paid by Freddie Mac

WASHINGTON - One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the people said.

They said they did not recall Mr. Davis doing much substantive work for the company in return for the money, other than speak to a political action committee composed of high-ranking employees in October 2006 on the coming midterm congressional elections. They said Mr. Davis’s his firm, Davis & Manafort, was kept on the payroll because of Mr. Davis’s close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who was widely expected by 2006 to run again for the White House.

Mr. Davis took a leave from Davis & Manafort for the duration of the campaign, but as a partner and equity-holder continues to share in its profits. No one at Davis & Manafort other than Mr. Davis was involved in efforts on Freddie Mac’s behalf, the people familiar with the arrangement said.

A Freddie Mac spokeswoman said the company would not comment. Jill Hazelbaker, a spokeswoman for the McCain campaign, did not dispute the payments to Mr. Davis’s firm. But she said that Mr. Davis had stopped taking a salary from his firm by the end of 2006 and that his work did not affect Mr. McCain.

“Senator McCain’s positions on policy matters are based upon what he believes to be in the public interest,” Ms. Hazelbaker said in a written statement.

The revelations come at a time when Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama are sparring over ties to lobbyists and special interests and seeking political advantage in a campaign being reshaped by the financial crisis and the plan to bail out investment firms.

Long history of cultivating allies
Mr. McCain’s campaign has been attacking Senator Barack Obama, his Democratic rival, for his ties to former officials of the mortgage lenders, both of which have long histories of cultivating allies in the two parties to fend off efforts to restrict their activities. Mr. McCain has been running a television commercial suggesting that Mr. Obama takes advice on housing issues from Franklin D. Raines, a former chief executive of Fannie Mae, a contention flatly denied by Mr. Raines and the Obama campaign. Freddie Mac’s roughly $500,000 in payments to Davis & Manafort began immediately after Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in late 2005 disbanded an advocacy coalition that they had set up and hired Mr. Davis to run, the people familiar with the arrangement said.

Between 2000 and the end of 2005, Mr. Davis had received nearly $2 million as president of the coalition, the Homeownership Alliance, which the companies created to help them oppose new regulations and protect their status as federally chartered companies with implicit government backing. That status let them borrow cheaply, helping to fuel rapid growth but also their increased purchases of the risky mortgage securities that were their downfall.

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26859857/
Let me get this straight, Chris Dud has been in charge of the committee for 2 years now and has been on top of the situation and is the number one receiver of money from Fannie & Freddie and I am supposed to believe that he is taking care of the situation? LOL... And now you expect me to believe a source from MSNBC the Obama election network....LOL....Now that is funny.
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