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Old 09-25-2008, 01:19 PM
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Default Yet more Palin: On the bailout

You know a candidate is doing horribly when the only people posting quotes from her are her opponents.

The latest painful gobbledygook from the Couric interview. And again, I apologize for linking to ThinkProgress, but they have the video and the transcript.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/25/...ut-healthcare/

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COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? Allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy? Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: That’s why I say, I like ever American I’m speaking with were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the tax payers looking to bailout.

But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Helping the — Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. Shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americas. A

And trade we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. ALl those things under the umbrella of job creation.

This bailout is a part of that.
Got that? The bailout is about... health care! And job creation! And reducing taxes and spending and.... and.... and... puppies!! Puppies for everyone!!

Good Lord.
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Well, glad she didn't include community organizers.. Those people are idiots.

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She makes Bush sound positively lucid and expertly informed.
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So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americas.
So, reducing taxes must be accompanied by tax reductions?

Good God!
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I'll chalk this up (for now) to her being really new at this stuff. She has a lot to learn in a short time and she's not well versed enough to be good on her feet. I reserve the right to change my mind as time goes by. I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt, too. Maybe he's just not a good public speaker I thought. Turns out he was just not a bright guy. But I reserve judgment on Palin for now.
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She makes Bush sound positively lucid and expertly informed.

Hmm, you may have somethin' there.
Spoze McCain snatched her to make himself look good?
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I'll chalk this up (for now) to her being really new at this stuff. She has a lot to learn in a short time and she's not well versed enough to be good on her feet. I reserve the right to change my mind as time goes by. I gave Bush the benefit of the doubt, too. Maybe he's just not a good public speaker I thought. Turns out he was just not a bright guy. But I reserve judgment on Palin for now.
That's extremely generous of you.

My problem is less her painfully inarticulate way of speaking, but more the fact that, once you take the time to parse it out, there's basically no substance to what she says. It's not just the wrapping; there's no product, either.

As I noted in another thread, when she was being thrown softballs by Sean Hannity, she couldn't even articulate any specifics about *her own record*.

The answers she gives are vapid generalizations that, as often as not, have very little to do with the actual question.
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My problem is less her painfully inarticulate way of speaking, but more the fact that, once you take the time to parse it out, there's basically no substance to what she says. It's not just the wrapping; there's no product, either.
I know! I don't think she knows enough of the play book right now (being generous again). In other words, there is no substance because she does not know the substance. As a VP candicate you cannot go off message. But she doesn't know the message.

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As I noted in another thread, when she was being thrown softballs by Sean Hannity, she couldn't even articulate any specifics about *her own record*.
I didn't see that. I hate Hannity and won't watch anything his stupid ass is on.

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The answers she gives are vapid generalizations that, as often as not, have very little to do with the actual question.
Not good, I agree. My opinion right now is that she may be a good choice for a Vice Presidential candidate, but she's not a good choice to actually be Vice President.
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I didn't see that. I hate Hannity and won't watch anything his stupid ass is on.
Neither do I. But luckily other people are willing to do so, and they provide transcripts!
http://monkeycrash.com/2008/09/19/tr...ity-interview/

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HANNITY:How did you take on your own party, specifically? And do you think you’d be able to do that, as well, in Washington?

PALIN: Well, I just recognized that there — as John McCain talked about on the campaign trail, also — it doesn’t matter which party it is that is just kind of creating the good-old-boy network and the cronyism and allowing obsessive partisanship to get in the way of just doing what’s right for the people who are to be served. And I just recognized that it’s not just the other party. Sometimes it’s our own party that just starts taking advantage of the people.

And I felt compelled to do something about it, decided to run for office, got in there and with that mandate that I believe the people had just given me, via their vote, they expected the changes to take place, that reform. And we’re living up to that. And as we do, we are ruffling feathers.
Hannity tossed her a softball question: give me specifics about all the great things you did in Alaska to earn the "reformer" label. It was a chance to toot her own horn. She couldn't.

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How does that work? You hope she grows into the job by January 20?
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How does that work? You hope she grows into the job by January 20?
Ahhh, no. What I meant was that there are two separate things one needs to consider in a Vice Presidential candidate. The first is whether the person is a good candidate, which means is the person going to help you get elected? Elections in this country are about who people like better and connect with better, not who is actually better. And I think (right now, subject to her being stupid) that McCain picked someone that will help him get elected. Biden does nothing, good or bad, for Obama on that account. Guys like her as a person and women do, too (right now). But the question of whether she'll actually make a good Vice President is entirely different. From what I've seen, she won't. She doesn't know enough. Which is different from being stupid. Regardless, she does not have the skills to be Vice President or President.

As for the quote I'm still being generous! It was horrible. But she's not used to it.
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