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Old 10-16-2004, 09:09 AM
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The head of the nation's largest gay and lesbian Republican group slammed fellow Republicans Friday for "feigning outrage" over comments by Sen. John Kerry, and called on President Bush to "stop attacking gay families on the campaign trail."

Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans, said Democratic presidential nominee Kerry was "not wise" to refer to the daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney during the answer to a question about homosexuality during a presidential debate Wednesday night.

But he said Republicans "who are expressing outrage at the debate comments really have been outrageous themselves."

"The reality is the type of outrage that is being expressed by some Republicans should be expressed at themselves. They've decided to use gay families as wedge issues across America in swing states -- that is truly outrageous," he told CNN's "American Morning."

The Log Cabin Republicans have withheld their endorsement in the presidential race after clashing with Bush over several issues, including a constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/15/log.cabin/
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The head of the nation's largest gay and lesbian Republican group slammed fellow Republicans Friday for "feigning outrage" over comments by Sen. John Kerry, and called on President Bush to "stop attacking gay families on the campaign trail."
So maybe they're experts on feigning? Do they have some sort of device that measures feigning? How can they tell? Perhaps they're just feigning hurt feelings for this CNN reporter.
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Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans, said Democratic presidential nominee Kerry was "not wise" to refer to the daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney during the answer to a question about homosexuality during a presidential debate Wednesday night.
Now here's an understatement. Perhaps it was "not wise" for the Captain of the Titanic to disregard Iceberg warnings too. Perhaps it was "not wise" for the New York Times to hire Jayson Blair and continue promoting him despite repeated warnings of plagiarism.
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Doesn't matter. What matters is that the vast majority of those watching had a negative reaction to Kerry's words. So did ALL the commentarors and anchors that I saw. And then Kerry's lying about how and why he used her as an example afterwards ONLY makes it all that much worse.

"This is not a good man." Lynn Cheney, speaking of Kerry......
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Default The Shrill words of Shrill Lynn Cheney

jp5 wrote [quoteDoesn't matter. What matters is that the vast majority of those watching had a negative reaction to Kerry's words. So did ALL the commentarors and anchors that I saw. .."This is not a good man." Lynn Cheney, speaking of Kerry...... quote]

Regardless of why Kerry did the stupid thing that Kerry about pointing out Cheney's daughter's lesbianisms, Lynn Cheney is reacting much more like a politico than a mother. Did Lynn the Shrill call Alan Keyes a " bad man".
No she did not because KEYES is of the same party that her husband is.

So Lynn can save her histerionics.

Having said that I believe that Kerry did a very dumb thing and deserves whatever the effects are, but I will not show any sympathy for the Shrill CAT of CNN Weekend Crossfire who lied about SEN Joe Lieberman. LIEBERMAN.
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know what's better for Gays and Lesbians (both negative terms according to them) and they know what they should be mad at.

We're ALL god's children - unless you follow Falwell and Robertson....


by the way JP, how are things at Republican headquarters?
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My outrage was based on a specific person's right to privacy.

The Democrats who have been asserting that "it's not a choice," have implied (not very subtly) that it's an awful thing and nobody would choose to be gay.
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My outrage was based on a specific person's right to privacy.
Yeah, right. Mary Cheney is a public figure. She has been "out" for years. She has worked in corporate gay & lesbian outreach. She works for her father's political campaign.

OMG, OMG, OMG!!! Kerry respectfully* mentioned the gayness of an openly, publicly gay woman! For shame!

* respectfully - as in referring to her as one of "God's children" rather than a "selfish hedonist"



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The Democrats who have been asserting that "it's not a choice," have implied (not very subtly) that it's an awful thing and nobody would choose to be gay.
Bull. Being gay is not an awful thing. But it's not always easy being gay. GLBT folk face hate, intolerance, discrimination, violence and second-class citizenry. Who would choose to be gay in this environment?

Scientific (disrespected by this administration and the religious right), as well as anecdotal (go ahead, ask a gay person about his or her "choice") evidence points to homosexuality as a fact of nature, not choice. No matter how many nutjobs try to beat or preach it outta 'em.

I'm heterosexual, but I didn't choose that. I was born this way. Is that an implication that heterosexuality is "awful"? Of course not. Absurd.
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Gays were not upset. Even gay republicans were not upset. Mary Cheney was not upset either.

The only people outraged with Kerry's remark wer Lynne and Dick and they are fair game. Besides they have every reason to be outraged, At least 25% of evangelical christians are not going to show up and vote for him because his daughter is a sinner according to their beliefs.
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At least 25% of evangelical christians are not going to show up and vote for him because his daughter is a sinner according to their beliefs.
Which poll did you get that from Ken?
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At least 25% of evangelical christians are not going to show up and vote for him because his daughter is a sinner according to their beliefs.
Evangelical Christians historically ALWAYS vote. And they won't be voting for Kerry no matter what, so you can kiss your wet dream goodbye. If anything this will only make Repbulicans even more upset and get more conservatives to show up to vote.
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