Besides the outrage expressed by Kerry's comment regarding Cheney's
daughter, there is another aspect of this issue that has been overlooked.
Instead of disputing gay marriage on moral grounds, the republicans missed
a great opportunity to emphasize the economic consequence such legislation
would bring. Trying to manage, an already overburdened social security and
medicare system, would become useless, and speed up the collapse of this and other programs meant to protect Americans.

"speed up the collapse of this and other programs meant to protect Americans"


why would we want to protect gays and lesbians anyway? They are responsible for 9/11 and they are sinners.

Sleepy wrote The economic consequences of "gay marriage" would indeed be further accelerated if "gay marriage" became legal. The insurance industry has already been hit because the major employers have already allowed :domestic partners" to be covered. Doesn't anyone realize that this has had a impact on the cost of health care.

The rights to survivorship rights to pensions of gay partners will further drive up the costs of hiring workers.

Military and veterans benefits will escalate if that event becomes legal.
The impact to our society in economic terms is potentially frightening.

You want see Social security collapse just legalize "Same sex marriage, ".

Yes Sleepy has got this exactly right on target the cost of "Same sex marriage" may not be affordable but neither party has the "testicular fortitude" to talk about it.

As long as they don't consummate on my front lawn, why would I give a crap? Seriously, and the insurance companies will always find some way to make a buck. They probably had the possibility of such legislation calculated already into their actuarial analysis and therefore into your premiums...if they didn't then oooopsss one bad year, awwww....

Whoa.....I actually agree with you for once!!

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If you're going to deny them the rights other Americans have, you should then lower their taxes. More than half of them would save thousands in singles penalties if they could marry (over half of married couples get a marriage bonus aka the penalty for singles). I really like this argument about equal rights for gays, though. Don't give them equal rights because we can't afford it.

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piniped wrote For us in the insurance industry paying out for Health Insurance as a result of legalized "gay marriage" or "domestic partner" coverage is not just "one bad year", it is long term. All of our premiums have gone up due to the hit that HIV and AIDS took on the system. The other long term impact of "gay marriage" is is also manifested itself in payments to and for dependents, survivorship, and long term disability payouts.

The harmful effects of HIV/AIDS/GAY MARRIAGE upon our health care system and and health care financing has/will exceed the effects of tort un-reform. The republicans are fixated on the lawsuits for this year as causing cost increases because of Edwards. As I said earlier nieghter the Reps nor the Dems have "intestinal fortitude" to admit that HIV/AIDS and domestic partners , and "gay marfriage " coverage has and will cause havoc to the health cost spiral and to pension and disability costs..

And like piniped I don't want anyone consummating their unions on my lawn; GAY, straight, bi-cross dressers, cross-eyed transvestites, whatever

And gays aren't Americans?

I think you win the award for the most ridiculous argument against gay marriage. Congratulations!

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I am not referring to legitimate gay marriages, I am talking about the potential for abuse by those who would abuse the system because they can.
What would stop a woman marrying another woman with seven kids to receive benefits until the right guy comes along? Stop and think of all the
possible scenario? The programs meant to protect would become chaos.
Employers could end up paying millions for those who would take advantage.
Or do you believe that such situations are unthinkable? I guess its one way to solve the health care problem while breaking the bank.

"And gays aren't Americans?

I think you win the award for the most ridiculous argument against gay marriage. Congratulations! "