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Old 10-01-2008, 05:20 PM
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I think it's over for Palin. I think also that the people supporting her on this forum are way out of step with Republican mainstream thought.

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(CBC News) Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin is readying for Thursday's faceoff with Democratic rival Joe Biden as new polls indicate growing doubt over whether she is ready for what the job might hold.

Palin faces increasing skepticism over whether she is ready to serve as president should there be cause for her accession, particularly in the aftermath of a series of exclusive television interviews.

Just 25 per cent of likely voters think Palin has the right experience to be president, according to an Associated Press-Gfk poll released Wednesday. That number is down from 41 per cent who expressed confidence in the first-term Alaska governor following her appearance at the GOP convention last month.

The poll indicated even Republican-leaning voters were increasingly suspicious of her abilities, with 47 per cent saying she has the right experience to be president, down from 75 per cent in the earlier survey.

The poll of 808 likely voters was conducted Saturday through Tuesday and had a sampling error of 3.4 percentage points.

A similar poll, conducted by the Pew Research Centre, also found support for Palin was slipping.

Of the 1,505 Americans surveyed, 63 per cent said Biden was qualified to serve as president if necessary, while 37 per cent said the same of Palin.

"Compared with public opinion immediately following Palin's nomination and convention speech, far fewer now hold the view that she is qualified to be president. More than half (52%) viewed her as qualified earlier in the month," the Pew poll results read.

The Pew poll sampling error was plus or minus 3.0 percentage points.

While Biden's favourability has remained fairly stable since a poll last month, unfavourable opinion of Palin has grown eight percentage points, the poll suggested.

Biden, 65, is chairman of the U.S. Senate's foreign relations committee. His foreign policy expertise had been held up as one of the major assets he brings to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign.

The senator was reportedly preparing for the debate near his home in Wilmington, Del., although he is scheduled to appear at a Senate vote on the $700-billion US financial bailout plan in Washington on Wednesday night.

Palin, who is said to have attracted elements of the Republican base who were wary of presidential candidate John McCain, was preparing for the debate at her running mate's retreat in Sedona, Ariz.

Just the second female vice-presidential candidate from a major party in U.S. history, Palin has been hailed as a maverick politician, a term often associated with McCain, for taking on the political establishment, including members of her own party.

She has taken a public relations beating, however, following interviews broadcast this week in which she offered vague, rambling answers on a variety of topics, including the U.S. economy and foreign policy.

For instance, Palin cited Russia's close physical proximity to Alaska as evidence of her foreign policy experience.

"It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As [Russian Prime Minister Vladimir] Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border," Palin said in an exclusive interview with CBS anchor Katie Couric.

Some observers have raised questions about how well-informed she is on issues pertinent to her possible future post, many of which will be raised during Thursday's debate.

"[T]he expectations are set so low for her, she could fake everyone out," said Scott Reed, who managed the presidential campaign of Republican Bob Dole in 1996.

"Palin needs to clear the bar and reframe the debate around Barack Obama and his tax-and-spend record," he said. "She's got to show a grasp on the issues and she's got to talk about Obama. Most importantly, she's a reformer. She's got to get back to that."

With expectations of Palin so low, others suggest that it is Biden — also known for his verbal missteps, including a recent statement erroneously citing Frankin D. Roosevelt as president of the U.S. during the stock market crash of 1929 — who is at greater risk of losing face in the debate.

"Not much attention has been pointed towards Biden's gaffes and misstatements but Sarah Palin only gets partial credit there," David Steinberg, director of the University of Miami's debate team, said Wednesday.

"Let's face it — he's on the side that's popular. The media has not been nearly as critical of him as they've been of Palin. And because of that, Biden has the most to lose in this debate."

The 90-minute exchange, scheduled for 9 p.m. ET at Washington University St. Louis, will be hosted by Gwen Ifill of PBS
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:42 PM
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The Republicans have to do something about this. It's only going to get worse as more interview material hits the airwaves. It's the Presidential candidate who should have the most influence with voter preference but she's so awful she's going to be the biggest issue when people consider McCain's candidacy.

And that's not even touching on how terrible things could get if she ever actually became President. But I'm sure people are cringing thinking about that.

Any drop in McCain's poll numbers from now on can probably be attributed to Palin.
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I think it's over for Palin. I think also that the people supporting her on this forum are way out of step with Republican mainstream thought.

And?? So what? Joe Biden got only 1900 Democrat votes during the Primary while Hillary got 18 MILLION.
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I think the problem has been that McCain's campaign has been guarding and hiding her. I think if they just tell her to do her thing and be herself she will be fine b/c she is likeable and a very smart person.
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I think the problem has been that McCain's campaign has been guarding and hiding her. I think if they just tell her to do her thing and be herself she will be fine b/c she is likeable and a very smart person.
Now you are just being silly
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I think the problem has been that McCain's campaign has been guarding and hiding her. I think if they just tell her to do her thing and be herself she will be fine b/c she is likeable and a very smart person.
It's not the hiding that's made her the subject of derision. It's what she says.
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I tell you if I was a Republican I'd be furious over this. Of all the people in that party (and they have some really sharp people) this is the best they could find?
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And?? So what? Joe Biden got only 1900 Democrat votes during the Primary while Hillary got 18 MILLION.
Yet those millions seem comfortable with Biden as VP.

It strikes me that you have proved Doug's point.

Never mind that your claim is (yet another) thoroughly debunked GOP lie.
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml

Biden got nearly 80,000 votes before dropping out.

It's interesting. The GOP has told so many lies this campaign, that I think the few valid points they try to make get buried in the noise.
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And?? So what? Joe Biden got only 1900 Democrat votes during the Primary while Hillary got 18 MILLION.
I just finished read in the paper the headline was Sarah Palin continues to do good in the ratings despite the media and the dems bashing. In the associated content.com. Wrong again.
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If it was a barrier we would lose nearly 75% of Congress and most of the state’s legislatures. The Igloo Girl will do well enough just by Lipsticking the words and phrases that she is being thought to say. The only risk here is that she needs to remember when to use the correct phrase with the correct answer to the correct question.

When she is asked what country does she think may be a challenge to us in the geopolitical sense and she starts to tell us how her hubby races dog sleds and how McCain just loves to hear about those stories we can say Houston We Have a Problem !!!!
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