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Old 10-02-2008, 09:46 AM
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Yes you're right there was a Republican controlled congress and Senate during the entire Clinton Administration.
Clinton controlled the SEC did he not! Did he not have oversight of that agency?

Interestingly, you seem to think Congress should bear the brunt of the responsibility for economic crisises, but wait, aren't the Democrats in charge during this one?

So You are saying the Democrat controlled Congress is to blame for this current mess? Well a lot of people agree with you!
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Clinton controlled the SEC did he not! Did he not have oversight of that agency?

Interestingly, you seem to think Congress should bear the brunt of the responsibility for economic crisises, but wait, aren't the Democrats in charge during this one?

So You are saying the Democrat controlled Congress is to blame for this current mess? Well a lot of people agree with you!
This congress does not have the votes to override Bush's very busy VETO pen..Don't you remember how tough the Republicans made it on Clinton to get anything done? Then they really got busy and concerned themselves with America's true problems and attempted to impeach Clinton for a Blowjob. Because the were the majority.
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Default We can all share the blame..

The Republicans are crying that we should all share the blame...puke.

Of course they are it's election time.

We all know just where the blame lies.
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As much as I don't agree with Bush, I genuinely think that he wanted better for America. I honestly don't think that even the republican run congress was out to get us as terrorists are.
Are you kidding me! Read Robert Kennedy's book "Crimes against Nature" to see how much George 'cares' about our country compared to how much he cares about lining his, and his corporate friends...I mean closest advisors, cabinet members, and staffers pockets at the expense of you, me, and this formerly great country. His policies are deliberate, blatant, and EVIL, and he's been intentional about this evil. He is and will be considered one of the 3 worst presidents ever, and I hope they find out enough about him once this is over that they can prosecute and incarcerate him and his staff of corporate thieves. No time in the history of our government has there been a more corrupt, evil administration, and it needs to end in January.
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This congress does not have the votes to override Bush's very busy VETO pen..Don't you remember how tough the Republicans made it on Clinton to get anything done? Then they really got busy and concerned themselves with America's true problems and attempted to impeach Clinton for a Blowjob. Because the were the majority.
I'm hoping that the Dems could get to 60 senate members at election time (its more and more possible). Then Barack, and demo house and demo senate would have complete power for at least 2 years to set back every horrific thing that the last 16 years worth of GOP has established. All three in democratic control would truly set our country back on teh right course. My only fear is that since Bush has put us in such a hole, that I don't think we'll be much better in 2 years no matter what happens, which could unfortunately send the house or senate running the opposite direction fast, even though its not really possible to shore up everything immediately.
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I'm hoping that the Dems could get to 60 senate members at election time (its more and more possible). Then Barack, and demo house and demo senate would have complete power for at least 2 years to set back every horrific thing that the last 16 years worth of GOP has established. All three in democratic control would truly set our country back on teh right course. My only fear is that since Bush has put us in such a hole, that I don't think we'll be much better in 2 years no matter what happens, which could unfortunately send the house or senate running the opposite direction fast, even though its not really possible to shore up everything immediately.
Yes I do believe the Bush and his fellow greedy Republicans have managed to screw things up so much that there is a very good chance the Dems will controll everything after this election.
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Yes you're right there was a Republican controlled congress and Senate during the entire Clinton Administration.
Doesn't matter. I don't see you blaming the Democrat Majority of both houses today for all the economic mess we're experiencing. EVEN though they are the ones responsible.

Clinton signed the deregulation legislation in 1997 after demanding that they put in more money going to people who normally hadn't been included in mortgage loans (aka, they weren't qualified). That's when Fannie and Freddie snowballed and the Democrat legislators defended them for their abuses in a report in 2004 by the regulator. Using inflammatory words like "lynching," these Dems protected FAnnie/Freddie and failed to come onboard for doing anything about it.

Not to mention the many, many times since 2000 that the Bush administration has TRIED to get the Congress to do something about those abuses. The Senate and Congress was too close in numbers then for the Republicans to do anything about it. Dems blocked any and all attempts to change things and remedy the problems.
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Yes I do believe the Bush and his fellow greedy Republicans have managed to screw things up so much that there is a very good chance the Dems will controll everything after this election.
The ONE really good thing about that???? Dems won't have ANYBODY else to blame the things that go wrong on. It's ALL on their heads. Dems better hope they don't screw anything up or nothing happens on their watch. THEY will be totally 110% in control.

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The Republicans are crying that we should all share the blame...puke.

Of course they are it's election time.

We all know just where the blame lies.
you are way too ignorant and lazy if you think Republicans are soley to blame.

I would ask you to research about Barny Frank and other Dems roles but I know you don't care about reality.

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You are voting for someone who will take economic freedom from millions through excessive taxation and cost our country millions of jobs and you have the audacity to call us economic terrorists?

I hope if Obama is elected, you experience the suffering he will bring this country first hand.
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