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Old 10-19-2004, 04:15 AM
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Default Latest polls shows Kerry winning electoral vote

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

As of today, they have Kerry 284 and Bush 247
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I wish there was a law banning all polls from now until election.
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I wish I earned a nickel everytime someone type the phrase...

"not looking good for _______"

Who's with me??
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Thats is why I'm sick of the polls. You can find polls showing Bush or Kerry leading or behind just by clicking on another web site or turning the channel.
Stop all polls !
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Default Your poll is flawed

That poll is definitely flawed. I suspect it's one that has a bias. Check out Rasmusseun who doesn't count them firmly in a candidate's column...until they are ahead at least 5 percentage points.

YOUR poll has Florida counted for Kerry already. It says Florida is weak for Kerry right now. IF anything, it's weak for Bush right now in most all the polling. But bottom line is....Florida shouldn't be counted for either candidate yet; it's just too close to call right now. As are several others that this poll counts in the totals.
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Default Not a poll

JP5, electoral-vote is a metapoll — it simply shows the results of a wide range of polls, including Rasmussen, Zogby, Gallup, Strategic Vision, etc.

Its weakness is twofold: It uses the most recent poll results, without discriminating much between pollsters; and it assigns a state to either Kerry or Bush even if the lead is just 1 percent.

But it's been using the same methodology for months. It used to bounce all over the map, but lately the trend has been all in Kerry's favor. That's what I find encouraging.

But definitive? No. Many of those states are still to close to call. Your guy still has an outside chance of winning.
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raytri is correct but left out a very very important factor... the fellow who runs this is a rabid Kerry supporter... I am finding that his poll was much more reliable when the election was a long way away... the closer the elcetion the less reliable I find it... I wonder at his methodology and if he has changed his calculations.....

No accusations but I have been watching polls myself and have noticed that most polls favor Bush... most swing states in most polls favor Bush... but electoral-vote keeps swinging to Kerry....
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Default This is what encourages me

What I find encouraging....is that Pres. Bush has cut into the woman's vote AND the black vote over the 2000 election. He's actually doubled his support from blacks; especially blacks who are over 50 and consider themselves "Christians." In the 2000 elections, Bush only got 9% of the black vote. Today, the polls show that support doubled at 18%.

And while Bush has increased his percentage support of men, he's also captured more of the women's support over the 2000 percentage totals. Bush has gained especially with the married women with children. By contrast, Kerry has NOT been able to capture anymore of the men's support AND he's lost some of the women's vote. In 2000, Al Gore won 54% of the women's vote. Kerry is clearly NOT going to get that. And even small amounts of voter base that a candidate can strip away from the other side is beneficial and may very well be the determining factor.
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Well if he is a rabid Kerry supporter then he's not too bright. If I was going to sway people, I would tell them that Bush is ahead by 5 points so that democrats would get even more busier trying to get rid of him.

The polling doesn't really matter though. Only 2 or 3 states are going to decide this whole election.
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This coming from someone who said yesterday that the only poll that matters is Nov 2. I'll also add that Florida is barely to Kerry, take it away and Bush wins. So the "it's not looking good for Bush" statement is ridiculous. Equally ridiculous is a "it's not looking good for Kerry" statement. It will be down to the wire, that's a fact.
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