Well , this debate was really boring overall.

The things that stood out though were McCain's 300 billion dollar buying of mortgages, outside the $700 billion bailout. What the hell was all that about?...lol. Once again, McCain fals off the less spending bandwagon.

Obama's morality in government comments were quite striking. Most lefties dont think the government should legislate morality, and Obama pretty much went in the opposite direction on it.

On healthcare, I thought McCain got the best of Obama. Obama's plan does call for penalties against employers who dont provide it to their employees.

I also thought that McCain got the better of Obama, as Obama had to break the rules in order to retort McCain. It was a bad move by Obama to have to fight over it and be reminded of the rules by Tom Brokaw.

But once again, the rules of the debate are what are stupid from the get go, but if you both signed off on the dumb rules, at least follow them.

McCain wiped the floor with Obama on foreign policy. Even made Obama say he was "green behind the ears". I still dont see how a guy who sits on a subcommittee for Afghanistan has any clout on the issue of Afghanistan, when he never calls that subcommittee into session. Echoes of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd ont he Banking Committtee.

The whole planet in peril stuff just doesnt do it for me. Its all a tax scam. "The sky is falling, the sky is falling, we need to tax you to stop it!"

According to McCain, social security is easy to fix. Ok, well Bush tried it, and the Democrats stonewalled it every step of the way. Tom Brokaw brought a great point on this issue. If we think the financial crisis is bad, wait till SS, Medicare, and Medicaid go belly up in the near future.

Obama hit McCain on the SCHIP bill, which McCain didnt hit back with. What Obama didnt say though, is that billed raised the age limit to 25 for "children". If anybody here thinks a 25 year old is a child, I have no respect for you as a person. Will this matter? Probably not, just something I caught them say.

Obama of course wants to cut taxes on 95% of people, but still hasnt defined how. Other then taxing the rich and giving it to the poor, that really isnt a tax cut, it is simply redistribution of wealth.

And I still havent figured out what a "net spending cut" is. If any economic person can explain that one to me, I would be much obliged. A net spending cut, means at face value, that there is a whole lot of spending ont he gross side. But I could be wrong. I dont think Obama knows either.

Overall, McCain gave more substance to his economic policy, while Obama just kind of gave us the same thing from last time, with morality thrown into it.

Oh, almost forgot, healthcare as a right. Obama says healthcare is a right. Every constitutional scholar ran to check and make sure it was there, but came up empty on that one.

Again overall, boring as all get out, not much new other then McCain giving a little more detail about his economic policy. Obama nothing really new, just more eye glazed rhetoric and lots of good sounding stuff.

It is quite safe to say, that there is no fiscal conservative in this race. In fact both of these morons are in a race to see who can spend more, in a time where both say spending needs to be less. I am still perplexed on how they plan on doing that, when their plans are to increase government programs and socialize our nation.

300 million people, and we got these 2 glittering jewels of colossal ignorance.

Oh well, at least I turned it over to Animal Planet to see that cool snake show, where some anaconda burped up some really large animal in order to get away from people trying to measure how long it is. I was kind of hoping that show with the guy who got eaten by a bear was on. I always love watching enviro-freaks try and show us just how lovable and furry wild bears are, just before getting killed by one. Best part of that show is when the guy talks to these animals in a baby voice. Makes you wonder how sane these folks really are.

Sorry, I am rambling, just kind of numb from that debate last night.

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If I had the option of voting 2000 and 2004 over again, I would still vote Bush.

Most of your points are too intelligent or thoughtful to be understood by the libs.

Some comments, I don't know what you are referring to though, such as:
And let me help you out with this one:
Net spending cut means more government spending will be cut than added. It is just another Obama lie...

I agree that the debate was boring. Mostly because Obama got away with lying through his teeth the whole debate. McCain should refer to Obama as "that liar" IMO.

is this the election for a third party candidate to take control?
McCain is not stying true to the spend less, don't increase taxes position that got him this far. Obama is wack job far left nutcase material, so what to do?

Its like Dave Ramsey said this morning on some morning show, "McCain can't hit a baseball off a tee", and no that was not in any way a slam on his war injury. Obama has VERY questionable associations with dangerous people. Did McCain bring that up? Obama simply cannot implement any of the pie in the sky crap on his web site now that the economy is tanking, did McCain go there?

McCain should hire a competent expert to calculate what the cost of a national health care plan would cost, and hit Obama square between the eyes with " so how do you plan to pay for this, Specifically with accounting backup?".

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Government run __________ should scare the shat out of everyone. Unfortunately there are too many people out there that are ignorant of the fact that government royally screws up with every wasteful bureaucracy it creates.

The idea that people may be more attracted to a deceptive delusional pitch about a government bureaucracy providing their needs just makes me want to exclaim outrage at American stupidity.

And McCain is going to do what about that? Not a f-ing thing.

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and now we see Obama as he truly is....a huge liar that is completely uninformed. I quote "95% of America's small business make less than $250,000 a year." WTF?!?!? Since when is it ok and acceptable to throw random made up numbers out there? Come on guys, of course that is not true!!! If that where the case, small business' wouldn't exist in America today. If all it takes is making up facts and throwing out numbers I'll run for president.

You mean McCain isn't going to create an incompetent government bureaucracy to provide critical healthcare? That is a bad thing HOW?

McCain wants to give tax credits for people to purchase health insurance. Then if you have an incompetent insurance company, they just go under or out of business and the nation isn't wrecked as there are other companies to fill the void. Also, healthcare profits are absolutely ridiculous. You think a wasteful government bureaucracy is going to bring that down? HA HA HA HA. Thanks for the laugh.

Well he knows his 527's, the mainstream media, aren't going to talk about his lies, so he figures why not!

Ahhh, no. He isn't going to do anything about the size of government or the bureaucracy. So if such things are an issue for you, I fail to see why supporting McCain is a good idea.

Got a link to a post where I said that? I'll wait right here.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Saw this from FactCheck, I think it just about sums everything up:

The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget evaluated both candidates’ proposals for both spending and saving. The group’s president, Maya MacGuineas, told CNN that by 2013, Obama’s major budget policies would add $286 billion to that year’s deficit, while McCain’s would add $211 billion.

Something else Obama said that doesnt make any kind of sense, was when he said he wants to lower premiums, then he turns around and says he will force insurance companies to give care to pre-existing conditions.

I cannot for the life of me understand that position. Health insurance by its very definition is paying for those who are sick. If your a healthy human being, yuo arent going to do aything but pay your premium and never use a doctor. That premium you pay, if you are healthy, is going to go to paying for the people who are covered and are sick. In essence, all health insurance is paying for the sick. If you mandate insurance companies take on the extra cost associated with pre-existing conditions, you in no sound business way or with any logic, can lower premiums. That is like trying to get 2 North Poles of 2 different magnets to click together.

It sounds like a great idea, but if it were put into practice, would do the exact opposite.

I dont know, the guy just doesnt have a clue what he is talking about.

And then we have McCain, wanting to spend $300 billion extra on mortgages.

Either way we go, over the next 4 years, we are screwed.

In fact, though it pains me to say this, we might be looking at the final throws of this nation as the original Constitution intended it. We got to many socialist programs that are unfundable, that need to be done away with that are creeping up on us, and neither party will do what is necessary b/c to them it is political suicide. This is how we lost our nation, by allowing socialist tenets to creep slowly into it, until it was all consumed by it.

Its really sad. But people's own selfishness has overriden their common sense. "Give me, give me, give me" until the foundations crack and give way.

Sad, very sad.

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