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I guess that means you will start posting his poll results as opposed to Berkley junior College internal polls....
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I guess that means you will start posting his poll results as opposed to Berkley junior College internal polls....
Why would I care about polls if the race is over?
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I guess that means you will start posting his poll results as opposed to Berkley junior College internal polls....
Why would I care about polls if the race is over?
...the polls may help....then again, maybe not.

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I don't trust the polls, simply because everything has changed since 2000, and probably the electorate too, so pollsters are just guessing the electorate and I don't want to trust a guess, unless it's my own.
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Default Carter & Reagan election

Up to the final weekend before the election. All the polls showed Reagan & Carter TIED, or very close. Exactly like we see & hear today. We know the outcome of that one. A 47 state landslide for Reagan.

There's a couple of reasons that I think Bush will win in a landslide.

1. Hawaii, has never ever voted Republican. And Bush is up 1 point!!! Smaller in population, the poll here is probably more accurate than a larger populace state.
2. New Jersey. Kerry should be up in double digits here. Instead it's considered very close, & could go to Bush.
3. Pennsylvania normally liberal state. Bush is campaigning heavily in, because there may be an opening for a win.
4. Minnesota, Iowa are in play also.

The women vote went for Al Gore, beating Bush by 11 points last election. The women vote is neck & neck for Kerry & Bush. And lots & lots of security moms out there, voting to re-elect President Bush, even though they are registered democrats.

The black vote has doubled for Bush. Even though still overwhelmingly for Kerry, Bush has made up some ground here.

I may be sticking my neck out a little this early. But, I truly believe that this election is not going to be close at all. I think Bush wins early & in a landslide.
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What are you smokin KJ?
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"All in all, Zogby’s habit of confusing his personal opinion with data-driven conclusions, his admitted practice of manipulating the respondent pool and his demographic weights, by standards not accepted anywhere else, along with mixing Internet polls with telephone interview results, forces me to reject his polls as unacceptable; they simply cannot be verified, and I strongly warn the reader that there is no established benchmark for the Zogby reports, even using previous Zogby polls, because he has changed his practices from his own history."

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"All in all, Zogby’s habit of confusing his personal opinion with data-driven conclusions, his admitted practice of manipulating the respondent pool and his demographic weights, by standards not accepted anywhere else, along with mixing Internet polls with telephone interview results, forces me to reject his polls as unacceptable;
And don't let the fact that he nailed two previous elections interfere with your conclusions

The information you're getting from washingtontimes and worldnetdaily is much more reliable.
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I thought Zogby was an "outlier". Please make up your mind on which polls are valid.
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