Thread: Climate Change: It's bad and getting worse

Originally Posted by Wyzaard

Ummm... this isn't a substantive rebuttal.

Of course it is. It identifies the fact that the alleged "bad change" in the global climate is merely climatic variability much as it has always been.

Originally Posted by jackdog

there are plenty of real issues the AGW cultists can expend their energy on. A few suggestions

• Over-fishing of the oceans.
• Destruction of native habitats.
• Slash and burn agriculture.
• Pollution of inland and coastal waters by agricultural and industrial run-offs.
• deforestation of rain forests
• Poaching of endangered animals.
• Lack of clean water in much of the third world.
• Preventable diseases, especially among children lacking basic immunization.
• Under-education of girls.
• Enslavement of children and often their Mothers.
• The selling of virginity of girls.
• Poverty and impoverishment.
• Killing of innocent civilians in wars of retribution

Thanks for that, JD. Isn't it odd how the hysteria of their anxiety over a self-evident non-problem is proportional to their indifference to genuine problems that cause real environmental degradation, real loss and waste of natural endowments, and real human suffering and death?

Originally Posted by Roy L

Of course it is. It identifies the fact that the alleged "bad change" in the global climate is merely climatic variability much as it has always been.

Why do right wing Americans think they know better than climatologists, and on what basis? It seems quite remarkably arrogant until you realise their masters want to keep on polluting and destroying our earth, and have therefore instructed the serfs not to notice.

Originally Posted by jackdog

seems as if in the best case warming has stopped and the climate will remain steady for a while now and in the worst case we are entering a cooling phase

there are plenty of real issues the AGW cultists can expend their energy on. A few suggestions

• Over-fishing of the oceans.
• Destruction of native habitats.
• Slash and burn agriculture.
• Pollution of inland and coastal waters by agricultural and industrial run-offs.
• deforestation of rain forests
• Poaching of endangered animals.
• Lack of clean water in much of the third world.
• Preventable diseases, especially among children lacking basic immunization.
• Under-education of girls.
• Enslavement of children and often their Mothers.
• The selling of virginity of girls.
• Poverty and impoverishment.
• Killing of innocent civilians in wars of retribution

Funny you should mention destruction of native habitats. That is exactly what man is doing...destroying his native habitat.

You will see more and more people on less and less land.
Man will do to himself what he has done to the native animals.

Yes... you are correct... the above issues need to be addressed.

It is probably too late to stop global warming anyway.

Greed wins.

Originally Posted by jackdog

seems as if in the best case warming has stopped and the climate will remain steady for a while now and in the worst case we are entering a cooling phase

Source?

there are plenty of real issues the AGW cultists can expend their energy on. A few suggestions

They're good ones, no doubt... and AGW is bound to exacerbate conditions concerning half of them; in addition, changing destructive agricultural policies would address a few of these AND AGW.

Originally Posted by roy

It identifies the fact that the alleged "bad change" in the global climate is merely climatic variability much as it has always been.

Source?

Originally Posted by Iolo

Why do right wing Americans think they know better than climatologists, and on what basis? It seems quite remarkably arrogant until you realise their masters want to keep on polluting and destroying our earth, and have therefore instructed the serfs not to notice.

can you present the evidence that demonstrates causation ?
Nobody else can, but you appear to be extraordinarily on top of things. I am positive that you are up to the task.
Thank you in advance.

Originally Posted by Wyzaard

Source?

?? You're asking me for a source that there have always been floods and droughts? WTF?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/ausdrought.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods

Any one who denies there is a climate change problem on this planet has not been watching the television network news since January, 2011. The facts are obvious, there is no need for discussion, or this thread.

It would be nice to see a thread on what our options are, and what we are going to do about climate change, but as long as the planet continues to have it's head up its ass things are only going to get worse.

Yet the Antarctic icepack is growing. http://modernsurvivalblog.com/weathe...ew-arctic-ice/

What we have is a few scientists trying to make a name for themselves and garner government grant money by calling normal climate variations a "manmade" event.

Originally Posted by Joey_Sac

Any one who denies there is a climate change problem on this planet has not been watching the television network news since January, 2011.

Hehe. My nomination for Unconscious Self-Refutation of the Month.

The facts are obvious, there is no need for discussion, or this thread.

The facts are obvious to anyone who looks at actual empirical data: while there is certainly bad weather here and there, as always, there is no climate change problem.