Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about

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Originally Posted by livefree

Those aren't "facts", those are the delusional lies and myths of the anti-science AGW denial cult that was created by the fossil fuel industry propagandists and that you have apparently embraced without actually investigating the source of your misinformation.

The CRU did not "hide" any data, they did not in any way fraudulently "manipulate" the data, the data in question has always been available from a number of sources, your myths are crazy.

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Refusing to release data for 2 years when presented with FOI is not lies or myths it is facts of corruption and data manipulation. No matter how much they show they are corrupt and more about politics than science the more you justify their disgusting behavior.

Refusing to release information is not science that is politics.


What are they hiding?

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Originally Posted by Colonel K

You just know you are going to be denied. His faith is impervious to fact or logic.

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I'm actually convinced ptif is a troll...Or just frighteningly stupid.

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Originally Posted by The Lepper

I'm actually convinced ptif is a troll...Or just frighteningly stupid.

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No it is the GW supporters that are to stupid to see the corruption and data manipulation by the CRU and the met office and the IPCC and NASA and GISS

Even though I have proven they refuse to release information you try to justify their illegal actions.

Again what are they hiding?

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Originally Posted by ptif219

What they said is they have no proof the information is corrupt that does not mean that the CRU did not pull a fast one.

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So you have thousands of stolen personal emails from many scientists dating back over 10 years, there's no evidence of any "corrupt information" or academic misconduct. Yet your crowd still carries on like there's some sort of massive conspiracy. Proof positive that you can never please conspiracy nuts.

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Originally Posted by The Lepper

I'm actually convinced ptif is a troll...Or just frighteningly stupid.

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a troll would've lost interest and moved on long ago...

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Originally Posted by ptif219

Does not matter. I have shown they are corrupt. (Incorrect) For 2 years they refused to release data. (Incorrect) how do we know the data is correct. (You can dl the data and models and confirm or refute the data and/or models) What are they hiding. (Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing)

The GW community is secretive and corrupt. (Incorrect) They no longer have any integrity or credibility. (Incorrect)

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Come on ptif. Take some responsibility for your eduction. Learn instead of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about things you do not know nor understand.

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Originally Posted by ptif219

No it is the GW supporters that are to stupid to see the corruption and data manipulation by the CRU and the met office and the IPCC and NASA and GISS

Even though I have proven they refuse to release information you try to justify their illegal actions.

Again what are they hiding?

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So you are claiming that all the scientists at CRU, the Met office, the IPCC, NASA, GISS, NSIDC, NCAR, BOM, PIK, NOAA and more are all hiding and manipulating data. IMO, such a claim belongs in the conspiracy section of this forum.

Bye, bye. I do not currently have a lot of patience for conspiracy nuts. I will keep reading you posts and watch you continue to make a fool of yourself.

>>>lurker mode

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Originally Posted by gmb92

So you have thousands of stolen personal emails from many scientists dating back over 10 years, there's no evidence of any "corrupt information" or academic misconduct. Yet your crowd still carries on like there's some sort of massive conspiracy. Proof positive that you can never please conspiracy nuts.

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Yes there is there is e-mails that say to destroy evidence

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Originally Posted by MannieD

Come on ptif. Take some responsibility for your eduction. Learn instead of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about things you do not know nor understand.

So you are claiming that all the scientists at CRU, the Met office, the IPCC, NASA, GISS, NSIDC, NCAR, BOM, PIK, NOAA and more are all hiding and manipulating data. IMO, such a claim belongs in the conspiracy section of this forum.

Bye, bye. I do not currently have a lot of patience for conspiracy nuts. I will keep reading you posts and watch you continue to make a fool of yourself.

>>>lurker mode

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The proof is they will not release information even when the FOI is used.

What are they hiding?

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Originally Posted by ptif219

The proof is they will not release information even when the FOI is used. What are they hiding?

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LOLOLOL.....still holding on like grim death to your idiotic denier cult myths even after they have been debunked and you've been shown the evidence many times. Very troll-like behavior....and very predictable in your case.

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Originally Posted by livefree

In your denier cult myths maybe but in the real world....
Climategate's raw data released to the public
July 31, 2011
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In 2009 the Climate Research Centre (CRU) at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, UK was accused of withholding and manipulating data. But while it was later cleared of the charges, the accusations still put a serious dent in the credibility of not just climate researchers, but researchers in general. For those of you wondering who was wrong and who was right in this so-called climategate now is your chance, since the CRU has released the raw data that was at the center of it all.

The temperature records comprise data that go back 150 years from 5113 weather stations. It would have been 5132 stations were it not for Poland refusing to allow their records to be made public. CRU's pro-vice-chancellor for research, Trevor Davies gives as the most important reason for releasing the data, dispelling the myths that they are being secretive and the data have been inappropriately manipulated. And maybe most importantly to show that there is indeed evidence that global temperature is increasing.

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

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Originally Posted by livefree

LOLOLOL.....still holding on like grim death to your idiotic denier cult myths even after they have been debunked and you've been shown the evidence many times. Very troll-like behavior....and very predictable in your case.

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You can't debunk the fact they ignored FOI for 2 years. Scientists would want the public to know. This proves this is not science but a political agenda and it is full of corruption and lies.

You mean the university investigated itself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...global-warming

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The inquiry was set up and paid for by the university after allegations that the emails, released in November, showed scientists had manipulated data, censored critics and failed to comply with requests to share their data with critics.

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