Global warmists getting hysterical! - Page 3

Blade · #21 (**permalink**) 11-18-2007, 10:13 PM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

Mack · #22 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007, 02:16 AM

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Global warming IS happening, JP5! If you don't believe that, then you probably don't believe in Evolution.

Well, then if you believe in Evolution, Global Warming should simply be the catalyst to the next adaptation man makes. If evolution is a viable theory, and if global warming is inevitable, then man will either adapt... or die.

True believers in Evolution shouldn't be so bothered by silly alarmist movements such as global warming.

I think you are being sarcastic, but in case you aren't...

It that whole dieing part that puts me off, I think we should try and avoid that and maybe do something about global warming. Evolution doesn't say that all creatures will magically adapt to all situations and therefore any change in climate won't effect their survival.

Hank · #23 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 03:46 AM

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Global warming IS happening, JP5! If you don't believe that, then you probably don't believe in Evolution. And if you don't believe in Evolution, you probably don't believe the planet Earth is round.

So, your suggesting science is a matter of opinion and an ideology alignment (Except for the world is round thing, Christians proved that a long time ago.).

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If 995 out of a 1,000 scientists say global warming is occurring (which is the ratio of believers to sceptics in the relevant scientific communities now), then I am inclined to believe them over the 5 out of a 1,000 who are being slipped oil company money to go around 'debunking' global warming.

Not so. Today’s academic publishing is a lot like the “Emmy Awards” or “noble peace prize” (I think you know what I'm saying.). In fact, there trying to de-certify meteorologist who don’t give into the global warming thing the same way they shunned real scientists in the 1970’s who didn’t give into the evolution thing.

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If you don't believe man can have that great an impact on the planet, how do you explain northern Africa? Historically the Sahara was much smaller and the coastal areas of north Africa were much more productive and species diverse than they are now. If the activities of pre-industrial humans was sufficient to make that great a change in that area, why is it so hard for you to understand that industrial-age humans can have a much greater impact?

It’s a whole picture thing. Lets go back to the ideology alignment thingy. Like evolution the ones you follow do not try to see what is occurring, they try to prove something is occurring. Africa has a 20 year drought cycle, in fact it just ended a few years ago.

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Lastly, Dubya still believes in his heart that global warming is so much bunk. That's enough evidence for me right there that global warming is occurring.

Yea, people have a tendency to do that on democratic running platforms. Everything is doom and gloom and only democrats can save you. Did you know that 83% of Americans have healthcare and those that don’t have full accesse to all hospitals with non-emergency care avaialable at clinics and county hospitals throughout America. There’s a problem with a generation, not the environment. It was designed to repair itself as was our bodies.

Daybreaker · #24 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 10:55 AM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

A U.N. report?

You'll only accept a citation from a U.N. report?

Ummm ... are you seriously saying that you don't remember anyone talking about climate change before Al Gore? Seriously?

Well. Okay. If that's how you want to be about it, but I think that your deliberate obtuseness illustrates the depth of your intellectual dishonesty.

Mack · #25 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 12:20 PM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

How about the 1990 First IPCC Assessment Report, or the Second Assessment Report in 1995, or the Third Assesment Report in 2001.

thetruth6 · #26 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 05:37 PM

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Yeah....Chicken Little is hard at work.

There's NO PROOF that man is doing it.....or much of it anyway. So, EVEN IF it's happening, it's rather egotistical of humans to think they can do much...IF ANYTHING....about it.

And if we are really SCARED and SERIOUS here's the answer for now: NUCLEAR ENERGY. It's what they've got in countries like France. And it's clean and affordable.

So....question for the libs on here: WHY AREN'T WE DOING NUCLEAR ENERGY?? Why isn't Gore---the know-it-all ---pushing this option?

Humans can't reverse a trend caused by Humans. Great statement there.

Get with the program, Bush has already admitted human's are responsible for GW..

Blade · #27 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 06:55 PM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

How about the 1990 First IPCC Assessment Report, or the Second Assessment Report in 1995, or the Third Assesment Report in 2001.

You're wrong.

From the 1990 assessment:

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There are many uncertainties in our predictions particularly with regard to the timing, magnitude and regional patterns of climate change, due to our incomplete understanding of: sources and sinks of GHGs; clouds; oceans; polar ice sheets.
Our judgement is that: global mean surface air temperature has increased by 0.3 to 0.6 oC over the last 100 years...; The size of this warming is broadly consistent with predictions of climate models, but it is also of the same magnitude as natural climate variability. Thus the observed increase could be largely due to this natural variability; alternatively this variability and other human factors could have offset a still larger human-induced greenhouse warming. The unequivocal detection of the enhanced greenhouse effect is not likely for a decade or more.

Mack · #28 (**permalink**) 11-21-2007, 05:27 AM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

How about the 1990 First IPCC Assessment Report, or the Second Assessment Report in 1995, or the Third Assesment Report in 2001.

You're wrong.

From the 1990 assessment:

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There are many uncertainties in our predictions particularly with regard to the timing, magnitude and regional patterns of climate change, due to our incomplete understanding of: sources and sinks of GHGs; clouds; oceans; polar ice sheets.
Our judgement is that: global mean surface air temperature has increased by 0.3 to 0.6 oC over the last 100 years...; The size of this warming is broadly consistent with predictions of climate models, but it is also of the same magnitude as natural climate variability. Thus the observed increase could be largely due to this natural variability; alternatively this variability and other human factors could have offset a still larger human-induced greenhouse warming. The unequivocal detection of the enhanced greenhouse effect is not likely for a decade or more.

Give me a break and admit you are wrong. The 1991 assessment was very conservative. The 95 and 2001 assessments all say that global warming is highly likely to have been caused by humans.

If you think that scientists just came out of the woodwork when Gore wrote his book you just haven't been paying attention.

Blade · #29 (**permalink**) 11-21-2007, 10:14 AM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

How about the 1990 First IPCC Assessment Report, or the Second Assessment Report in 1995, or the Third Assesment Report in 2001.

You're wrong.

From the 1990 assessment:

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There are many uncertainties in our predictions particularly with regard to the timing, magnitude and regional patterns of climate change, due to our incomplete understanding of: sources and sinks of GHGs; clouds; oceans; polar ice sheets.
Our judgement is that: global mean surface air temperature has increased by 0.3 to 0.6 oC over the last 100 years...; The size of this warming is broadly consistent with predictions of climate models, but it is also of the same magnitude as natural climate variability. Thus the observed increase could be largely due to this natural variability; alternatively this variability and other human factors could have offset a still larger human-induced greenhouse warming. The unequivocal detection of the enhanced greenhouse effect is not likely for a decade or more.

Give me a break and admit you are wrong. The 1991 assessment was very conservative. The 95 and 2001 assessments all say that global warming is highly likely to have been caused by humans.

If you think that scientists just came out of the woodwork when Gore wrote his book you just haven't been paying attention.

The issue wasn't did scientists come out of the woodwork - don't try to escape your false statement by flipping the issue - I said why are the scientists NOW saying he's right, you cited the other reports as if they had already been saying it, and they DON'T agree with Gore's claims - just as I said.

Mack · #30 (**permalink**) 11-21-2007, 12:21 PM

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This is for all you "man-made climate change aint happening" brigade.

As somebody previously commented - 95 percent of climate change scientists insist that we are closely at the tipping point of an irreversible change to the planets climate.

In Britain the government's scientific adviser Sir David King, hardly your typical left-winger, agrees that we are at the point of irreversible catastrophe unless we reduce global carbon emissions by 90 percent by 2020.

The UN's recent report confirms that climate change is a reality. The IPCC report by the world's leading climate change scientists also say it is happening, as did the Stern report here in the UK.

Yet we have ill-informed people, who have never had a peer-reviewed scientific paper published on the subject, claiming the contrary. I refer to this as "the Gallileo syndrome."

Can someone explain something that has bothered me. Algore writes a book with a claim, and then thousands of scientists crawl out of the woodwork saying "Duh, yeah, he's like right!". Where were all these guys before algore came along? Sleeping on the job??

They were saying that before, actually.

You just hadn't heard, I guess?

Yeah sure they were. And they were issuing UN reports, too?

Care to cite one?

How about the 1990 First IPCC Assessment Report, or the Second Assessment Report in 1995, or the Third Assesment Report in 2001.

You're wrong.

From the 1990 assessment:

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There are many uncertainties in our predictions particularly with regard to the timing, magnitude and regional patterns of climate change, due to our incomplete understanding of: sources and sinks of GHGs; clouds; oceans; polar ice sheets.
Our judgement is that: global mean surface air temperature has increased by 0.3 to 0.6 oC over the last 100 years...; The size of this warming is broadly consistent with predictions of climate models, but it is also of the same magnitude as natural climate variability. Thus the observed increase could be largely due to this natural variability; alternatively this variability and other human factors could have offset a still larger human-induced greenhouse warming. The unequivocal detection of the enhanced greenhouse effect is not likely for a decade or more.

Give me a break and admit you are wrong. The 1991 assessment was very conservative. The 95 and 2001 assessments all say that global warming is highly likely to have been caused by humans.

If you think that scientists just came out of the woodwork when Gore wrote his book you just haven't been paying attention.

The issue wasn't did scientists come out of the woodwork - don't try to escape your false statement by flipping the issue - I said why are the scientists NOW saying he's right, you cited the other reports as if they had already been saying it, and they DON'T agree with Gore's claims - just as I said.

Except the 1995 assessment mostly does and the 2001 almost unequivocally does.

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