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Yeah....Chicken Little is hard at work.

There's NO PROOF that man is doing it.....or much of it anyway. So, EVEN IF it's happening, it's rather egotistical of humans to think they can do much...IF ANYTHING....about it.

And if we are really SCARED and SERIOUS here's the answer for now: NUCLEAR ENERGY. It's what they've got in countries like France. And it's clean and affordable.

So....question for the libs on here: WHY AREN'T WE DOING NUCLEAR ENERGY?? Why isn't Gore---the know-it-all ---pushing this option?

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

You know if liberals are targeting Americas infrastructure instead of really being dupt, this could back fire on them when energy prices begin to fall as nuclear gets more and more popular.

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Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free.
However promoting your culture to where you have come will bring but what you fled.

Besides helping our environment, here's the MAIN reason I'd like to see us switch to nuclear: to shut the mouth of these OPEC guys who have a resource they threaten us with. Can you imagine if we weren't buying oil from them? They'd be hurting BIG TIME as it's the ONLY resource for countries like Venezuela and Saudia Arabia:

$100 oil has OPEC gushing

At summit, Chávez threatens $200 crude if U.S. invades Iran


11:53 PM CST on Saturday, November 17, 2007
By JIM LANDERS / The Dallas Morning News


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – OPEC's 13 member nations opened a summit Saturday night with a sumptuous celebration of $100-a-barrel oil and a warning from Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez that the price could double if the United States attacks Iran.

"If the United States is crazy enough to invade Iran or makes an aggression against Venezuela again, the price of oil will not be $100 but maybe $200," Mr. Chávez told his fellow oil-exporting leaders, gathered in a magnificent palace.

Iran's defiance of U.N. demands to halt its nuclear program has many in this part of the world worried that the Bush administration may launch a military strike aimed at crippling what appears to the West to be an effort by Tehran to develop nuclear weapons.

Mr. Chávez accused the United States of trying to break up OPEC in the 1980s and 1990s and said the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, an OPEC member, was part of an American campaign to dominate global oil supplies."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...c.2c6bbd6.html

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Seriously, I think you may have a point on the OPEC thing.

Here's the problem, though -- nuclear meltdowns. I just don't have the faith in either the government or the private sector required for me to say, "Yeah, let's put them in charge of stuff that can wipe out either the east coast or the west coast in a single day."

If someone can convince me that it's safe, I'll vote for nuclear power. But I've yet to be convinced that nuclear power is acceptable even when everything works the way it's supposed to, 'cause you've still got waste management and worker safety and a whole host of hassles that I don't think even really get addressed. I mean, where are you gonna put the hazardous crap after it's useless? Under my house, that's where -- or under the house of someone like me.

And that's not even getting into things like meltdowns and other accidental catastrophes.

Just seems too risky to me. Mind you, oil is causing its own problems right now -- maybe I will change my tune when the problems of oil get bigger than the problems of nuclear. I dunno.

After 60 years of operation of plants all over the country, do you know what the number of civilian deaths from them outside the plants is? ZERO. What proof would you have?

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

Global warming IS happening, JP5! If you don't believe that, then you probably don't believe in Evolution. And if you don't believe in Evolution, you probably don't believe the planet Earth is round. If 995 out of a 1,000 scientists say global warming is occurring (which is the ratio of believers to sceptics in the relevant scientific communities now), then I am inclined to believe them over the 5 out of a 1,000 who are being slipped oil company money to go around 'debunking' global warming.

If you don't believe man can have that great an impact on the planet, how do you explain northern Africa? Historically the Sahara was much smaller and the coastal areas of north Africa were much more productive and species diverse than they are now. If the activities of pre-industrial humans was sufficient to make that great a change in that area, why is it so hard for you to understand that industrial-age humans can have a much greater impact?

Lastly, Dubya still believes in his heart that global warming is so much bunk. That's enough evidence for me right there that global warming is occurring.

[quote="Blade";p="414352"]Man, here in the Pacific Northwest, people are still talking about Hanford. Which is good, 'cause apparently, the rest of you have stopped.

Yeah! I finally see the light!

Yeah, because a long time ago...the earth only had one big giant continent, but then after people came along, it broke up into a bunch of other continents!

Holy cow! Humans are responsible for tectonic shifting too! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!! AAAAUGGH!

[quote="Daybreaker";p="414362"]The number of civilian deaths from outside the Hanford site after 64 years of operation? ZERO.

The Hanford site wasn't a commercial nuclear reactor, but a gigantic factory system to make bomb material during WWII and the cold war - the two are not comparable.

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