Thread: World Without Oil

Originally Posted by PeakProphet

Well spacing in South Belridge is headed to fractions of an acre because of the formation being produced, the density of the oil, and the fact that pumpjacks are great for shallow formations, because they are cheap and reliable. The Bakken uses much larger versions, but you are generally correct that the kind of wells everyone wants are those which flow naturally, like what OPEC has. Pumpjacks going on a well mean that the reservoir energy just isn't there to let the well flow without lifting help.

I understand..

Belridge...

Discovered in 1911, and having a cumulative production of over 1.5 billion barrels of oil at the end of 2008, it is the fourth-largest oil field in California

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Belridge_Oil_Field

Originally Posted by Margot

I don't know a thing about Belridge.

But, why do they have so many rocker pumps?

Well spacing in South Belridge is headed to fractions of an acre because of the formation being produced, the density of the oil, and the fact that pumpjacks are great for shallow formations, because they are cheap and reliable. The Bakken uses much larger versions, but you are generally correct that the kind of wells everyone wants are those which flow naturally, like what OPEC has. Pumpjacks going on a well mean that the reservoir energy just isn't there to let the well flow without lifting help.

Originally Posted by livefree

Pretty much everything you post seems to be clueless nonsense.

First off, nothing is "killing wind and solar". That's one of the retarded myths of your cult of AGW denial. Solar and wind energy sources are multiplying rapidly and dropping in cost every year.

Secondly, talking about the operation and maintenance costs of solar and wind is meaningless unless you compare them to the O&M of fossil fuel plants.

There are 'fixed' O&M costs, which cover just the maintenance of the equipment, and what they call the 'variable' O&M costs, which include the fuel that the power plant consumes. Fixed maintenance costs of wind and solar are estimated to be about 9.6 dollars and 12.1 dollars respectively per megawatt/hr of power produced while the fixed O&M for modern coal plants with scrubbers is only about 9.2 dollars per megawatt/hr. However when you add the 'variable' O&M, including fuel, which amounts to about 33.1 dollars per megawatt/hr for coal, the coal plants total O&M rises to 42.3 dollars per megawatt/hr and the wind power farms and solar energy plants' O&M costs stay at about 9.6 and 12.1 because they have zero fuel costs.

source:
Cost of electricity by source
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Google Petr Beckman Univerty of Colorado

And read what he has proven with science just how powerful coal is

And how crappy solar is.

Originally Posted by PeakProphet

Expand on which part? Lifting systems are designed and used based on fluid density, gas volume, tubulars, fluid types, drive mechanisms, all sorts of stuff.

Well both how if a proven method works it works
Until something cheaper an more efficent is produce or developed

Too where that over time the technology will cover the cost benefit analysis

And second if these methods weren't making the business monies and a return of some
profit margin

They would quit or go outta business an rightly so

Originally Posted by Taxcutter

What is wrong with using proven and low-cost technology? ...

Nothing. That is why walk as much as I can, instead of local driving.
.

Originally Posted by sweetdaddy620

Well both how if a proven method works it works
Until something cheaper an more efficent is produce or developed

Too where that over time the technology will cover the cost benefit analysis

Oil companies live and breath exactly what you've described. And then they put pumpjacks on the wells.

Originally Posted by sweetdaddy620

And second if these methods weren't making the business monies and a return of some
profit margin

They would quit or go outta business an rightly so

Sure. And so they don't go out of business, they do their job well. And use pumpjacks.

Originally Posted by kowalskil

Nothing. That is why walk as much as I can, instead of local driving.
.

Yeah, but what fun is THAT!?! Corvettes for everyone I say!

Originally Posted by PeakProphet

Oil companies live and breath exactly what you've described. And then they put pumpjacks on the wells.



Sure. And so they don't go out of business, they do their job well. And use pumpjacks.

This is similar too what Carnegie did with the steel industry

He developed techniques too lower production cost

Which Europe had failed too do

And brought about the Industrial Revolution

Which brought about vast more employement

From the more efficient uses of productions

It flies in the face of union beliefs even tho it was well proven

I guess my point is.....if a business ain't making no profit margins

Will know in a hurry unless they are giant businesses

Like GM code for Gubbmint Motors

And their Pal Chrysler

Originally Posted by PeakProphet

Oil companies live and breath exactly what you've described. And then they put pumpjacks on the wells.



Sure. And so they don't go out of business, they do their job well. And use pumpjacks.

I live next door and too the east of your state

And I live in almost the exact center of my state

And the use of pump jacks is still. A pretty common

Feature an decoration too our countryside

My father worked in the pipeline business

He worked a production storage station

Fractionator, and compressor station

It was very intriguing when I was young too go there

Tho the expirence led to wanting more info

On the how's an the whys are here I am

A world not addicted to oil. Hmmm, seems to me next you all will be expecting people to be responsible for the planet and such ilk. What silly nonsense. How the heck are people suppose to finance their holy wars without the oil money? These Jihads are not gonna support themselves. Sorry silly me, I forgot, there is the drug trade.