Huh? My car is 12 years old and still going strong. No problems there. What sorts of car are you talking about that only last 2 - 5 years? The ones you use to drive across the country twice a week?

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neither of your are american. you both have very different back grounds from me. i live near detorit, in fact i visit it pretty much daily. detorit is motor city. so that's where i'm getting my ideas from. most people - around here - get their cars through a lease. that way they basically rent their car for the first 2 - 3 years of its life and give it back when they're done. the average car lasts 7 years and the average american consumer buys a car every 4 years.

NOW, if you actually read all of that, you're probably asking yourself the same question i am: why does that matter? my answer is that it doesn't. even if there's a wave of people who own new ethanol only cars, it's not going to put gas stations out of existence. And what is the reason for discussing it in the first place? IF am i right, which i believe i am, other types of fuel won't be any different. instead of gas stations you will have hydrogen stations. it makes no difference. the only other alternative is electric, but like i said, that doesn't solve anything because electric generators still use gas to run. you'll just see your electric bill rise, and people wont be able to heat themselves at night.

The bottom line: we need to have the vision to point ourselves in the right direction, or "We're all!"

Maybe. But it also takes up farmland which could be used for food...and which also produces jobs for Americans.

Thats the main reason I dont have a boner for Ethanol. I'd rather we exploit coal, Shale oil, or alternative fuels like hydrogen. Solar technology is advancing rapidly as well. Ethanol is so 1979.

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20 / 20 analysis of ethanol:


It might make jobs for the ethanol industry, however, if tax money is spent on it then its taking money away from other industries and other sources of employment.

In the end, nobody is going to benefit from it.

That's pretty cynical.

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So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.

I'm just sharing what seems to be a pretty reasonable interpretation of what it is.

As you have been quick to point out, it creates jobs. However, as we have observed, it increases the price of fuel. This increase is eaten by all sorts of corporations who then have to raise prices. As prices for anything go up, corporations have less money to expand, invest, and employ workers. Unless you could demonstrate something that would prevent such an occurrence, it would be reasonable to assume the cost of living will only be increased as the amount of jobs in our country stay the same or decrease.

Maybe you are right, it might benefit some people, for instance the politicians who get votes for appearing to care about the environment.

No, it's made from whole corn kernels. Corn based ethanol is not the answer. Switchgrass is much more efficient.

This thread assumes that either the price of gas will pass ethanol in efficiency, or that the way we produce ethanol will make it cheaper. Therefore you're whole argument is not valid.

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So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.

tell me about it, please.

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So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.