Sickens me. This whole new topic is in response to the feed back left by the idiots who posted in this thread: My big idea about saving the economy.

While you clearly didn't get it, let me try to put this into a simple and easy to understand way of thinking.

The point of Ethanol being used opposed to any other type of fuel is its end result. That end result is: it creates jobs for AMERICANS, and stops us from importing 1/4 of our GDP.

THE CAUSES WERE NOT:

• Greener ideals
• The fact it is not available yet means nothing.
• Ethanol is created out of a corn waste product anyways.
• I don't expect the government to do it for us, but I do expect them to put some money to pay for scientists.

Your stupidity is insane. I was not telling you it is ready now and that you should go out and buy it despite the fact it gets less mpg. I was saying, the end result is the best possible outcome.

If you still feel like a smart ass, consider this: if we adopted some form of gas as our power supply, it would not create anywhere near the amount of jobs that farming would. Electric has the same flaw, it provides no jobs and a number of generators still use gas, coal and oil to run, so it's not solving anything. The price of food might go up, but you may also pay 1$ for your gas, have any of you considered that we might just import some food? or maybe we could stop paying farmers subsidiaries for not farming.

We have more rich farm land than most any other country. The only thing holding this back is the 30% power decrease. After that it's totally open season for these companies that are able to provide it. That may not be a problem in the near future either, oil MAY double in price soon. If we don't figure it out before then, you're sure to see them coming into the market despite the possible stress on the food prices. that's how capitalism works.

Raharu, the problem with any fuel besides fossil fuel is that there isn't enough of it right now. Ethanol may be a better solution for America, but we'd have to change all facets of our civilization so rapidly to respond that it simply isn't feasible. American's would have to give up a TON of luxuries that they are used to now, not something that many people are going to like doing.

Unfortunately I feel as though that the capitalism must collapse for whatever reason for any radical change in American's minds to occur. Again, I am not disagreeing with you that ethanol would have a lot of benefits for this country, but to use it on such a wide scale to even replace a fraction of black water's function in our everyday lives simply cannot happen now.

American's mindset and attitude must change first before any beneficial change can take place.

I'm getting a little sick of the same response.
This proves to me that you don't know a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing about capitalism. the ONLY thing that needs to occur for ethanol to become our dominate fuel source is for it to win in the free market.

since you seem to not understand the concept of the free market, i will explain it to you. it doesn't matter that we all use oil or that we don't have enough now. once it is cheaper and more efficient than gasoline it will become popular very quickly, and this will raise demand, then, as we get adjusted for this demand, we will see more and more people becoming farmers.

Now, to the point i was really trying to make. Ethanol is the best alternative fuel out there BECAUSE IT CREATES AMERICAN JOBS. That is my whole argument.

You don't seem to understand that you can't just throw ethanol into a burner or generator or tank or whatever that was built for gasoline. A lot of things would have to be rebuilt. This is the problem.

I'm pretty sure hydrogen plants would create jobs too.

I'm definitely in favor alternate energy development. Although I don't believe ethanol is the solution. I would suggest further research into hydrogen energy.

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That is where you're wrong. Here is the profile of a hydrogen company: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=HYDG

Here is a profile of a agriculture company: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=MON

notice the number of full time employees. the hydrogen company has 85. the agriculture company has 18,800

You can argue that if we started using hydrogen powered cars the industry would grow, but it only takes so many people to watch the tanks - while work on their own - fill up.

you're right. However, how long does the average car last? 2-5 years. that is not a long time. and it's not as though gas stations are going to up and disappear at the government's will.

The simple truth is that oil and gas are not going to be the most logical way to power our cars and probably our homes in a matter of years. we are already being smashed by the monopoly known as OPEC, and it's not likely that it's going to improve - if it does it wont last long.

The free market system will begin to eat up energy and the first one that provides efficient cheap fuel will win. whether that is electric, nuclear, ethanol, or hydrogen. What I am saying is we need to aim in the right direction that will provide jobs for Americans. if we don't, we lose that opportunity.

The change is inevitable, but we have a choice now.

I think the average car lasts more like 10 years.

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