Originally Posted by PeakProphet
Didn't read my links did you? And by the looks of it did not really "get" my point - and that could have been my fault. So, I will try again.
Man can put whatever artificial numbers he likes or dislikes on global warming - but the real evidence is there in nature for all to see. Not only in retreating glaciers world wide
But in the changing ecology of the planet - an nowhere is this more visible than in alpine habitats
BOULDER, Colo., Feb. 8 (UPI) -- Earth's glaciers and ice caps outside of the regions of Greenland and Antarctica are shedding roughly 150 billion tons of ice annually, U.S. researchers say.
It is difficult to see how alpine biomes can be part of the "great global warming conspiracy" than some would suggest is behind the science of climate change
As for the latest idiocy of "of course the climate has changed before" well DUH!! Yes it has. But find me a fossil record that shows change as rapid as what we are currently experiencing and I am betting that record will coincide with an extinction event - not a pleasant thing to have to live through.
But climate change is not really about losing an alpine frog or even a forest - it is about the impact on the agricultural sector. With climate change we are in for "droughts and flooding rains" which are predicted to be MORE severe than what we have been experiencing. Given that a huge proportion of my state went under water last year - and more was flood affected, and this after 10 years of the most severe recorded drought in history - well, the farmers are worried, and if you value the ability to put food on your table so should you be.
Google up "Texas drought" and see how many millions they are estimating that small impact is having on your economy. Sure drought might have happened anyway but would it have been as severe or as long lasting if man had not (*)(*)(*)(*)ed with the environment?
The internet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhoea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind- boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it.
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not adding it to a fruit salad