Thread: US temperatures nothing unusual

Originally Posted by Windigo

Second, no it wouldn't because you warmongers

I thank you for continuing to provide evidence for our thesis that most denialists are political cultists. Being so much overwhelming peer-reviewed evidence has piled up, that thesis is now the consensus belief.

have confused the argument that urban heat island doesn't effect the reconstruction with urban heat island doesn't exist.

Record highs started outpacing record lows around 1980.

So, according to your very peculiar "it's because of urban heat islands!" theory, that means the urban heat island effect only began in 1980. Obviously, no urban heat islands existed before then.

Oh wait, I forget. It's the magical "but ... but ... the cities have been getting hotter as time goes on ... BECAUSE I SAY SO! I can't explain why or give any evidence, you just have to take my word!" theory.

Interesting how in the 1960s and 1970s, record lows dominated. That means there must have been a magical reverse heat island effect. Can you explain the physics behind that urban cold island effect?

Oh, Goddard also seems to be using stale data, given that most sources are quoting 5600+ new record highs so far in 2012. I imagine he won't be updating his chart, since it will no longer show what he wants it to show.

The temps are nothing unusual....so.....it is not unusual for corn and soybean crops to dry up in the fields?

I guess thats why farmers plant them every year....to watch the harvest fail.

Corn prices have doubled.

now 7.50 a bushel.

Originally Posted by mamooth

I see a couple things that anyone who had even a passing familiarity with statistics should have instantly spotted. Meaning all of the denialists failed to catch it. As usual.

First, if temperature is like a noisy signal around a constant baseline, then the number of new record highs and lows should be _decreasing_ every year, in roughly an exponential decline. That is, as more record highs get established, it will be harder to set new even higher record highs, so that will happen fewer times.

Second, showing new record highs without showing new record lows is very obviously some brazen cherrypicking. You know, that thing denialists have to constantly to cover up for the fact that their logic, statistics and science are all dogrcap.

Basically, what Goddard does raises one of the big red flags of pseudoscience, which is deliberately using fuzzy data when better data is available. Instead of "new highs", he could have simply used "temperature". Nope, he went for the fuzzy data instead.

That should have been obvious to anyone who had common sense and wasn't just a simpering political cultist. And that leaves out the denialists, who tend to be emotionally incapable of understanding anything that doesn't give them a reason to hate liberals. Look at all the cultists on this thread, screaming hatred at "Obama voters". Huh? Just what does Obama have to do with the temperature record? Oh wait, I forget. Denialists. To them, science = politics, and politics = science.

Exactly the thoughts I had!

Largest natural disaster in U.S. history declared today

Today the United States declared a natural disaster in more than 1,000 drought-stricken counties in 26 states.

The declaration from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), includes most of the south-west, which has been scorched by wildfires, parts of the midwestern corn belt, and the south-east. It covers counties in California, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Illinois, Indiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Delaware and Hawaii. With the declaration, farmers in these areas will be able to receive relief funds from the Federal government, which amounts to about about a third of the country's farmers and ranchers who are suffering in the drought conditions.

Nope nothing unusual; nothing unusual at all!

When it got dry here I planted sorghum...its about waist high now.

Farmers are going to have to adjust. Texas may have to start planting "fall crops".

Jan-Jun 2012 saw the warmest 6 month average temperature across the continental USA ever, warmer than 1934.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-pr...tate=110&div=0

Same goes for the last 12-month period, a new record high. But clearly there's nothing unusual about new all-time nationwide record highs.

Originally Posted by politicalcenter

The temps are nothing unusual....so.....it is not unusual for corn and soybean crops to dry up in the fields?.

No.

Originally Posted by politicalcenter

I guess thats why farmers plant them every year....to watch the harvest fail.

This is not why. Guess again. This is what scientists do and get paid for.

Originally Posted by politicalcenter

Corn prices have doubled.

now 7.50 a bushel.

Freon R-22 prices tripled from the last year. Thanks to scientists. 90% of Americans will be fine without a cernel of corn. Their houses/business are air conditioned with R22. Anyone who is familiar with the industry and scientific regulations knows that among those who cannot affort government regulations based on beleifs created by scientific majorities rate of death caused by overheating of bodies in the present heat waves will incease. Scentific majorities are nothing more than murderers. It is not that minimal wage workers cannot affort a 2 bedroom apartment. It is that it may become a burning hell. But what one expect from God when the nation is turning its back to God (did you ever open the Constitution of the State you live in?)? Unless Americans rise and ban scientific majorities from public places they are destined to burn ih hell – during their life on the Earth. Xnity is not only about life/death after death, its mainly God acting during earthly life.

Originally Posted by MannieD

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Scientists and bureaucrats do declare it all the time. Yellow media, American MSM spreads the declarations around. It keeps money flowing into their pockets. Will Obama jump on the board and do something about Katrina or whatever is the name of the disaster… to fill pockets of his campaign and industrial/financial monopolies with another batch of $billions??