Thread: Hansen on another Doomsday Rant - NOAA Scientist Counters with Facts

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/1...over-thinking/

Hansen goes on another doomsday rant this past May for the NY Times. As usual it was 100% rant and 0% backup. Martin Hoerling, NOAA scientist, takes Hansen's statements apart with facts, one-by-one....

And this guy is the "godfather" of AGW.....pitiful.....

I wonder how much we'd have to cut NOAA's budget before they'd let that Hanson charletan go?

Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/1...over-thinking/

Hansen goes on another doomsday rant this past May for the NY Times. As usual it was 100% rant and 0% backup. Martin Hoerling, NOAA scientist, takes Hansen's statements apart with facts, one-by-one....

And this guy is the "godfather" of AGW.....pitiful.....

Dr. Hoerling uses his 2005 study of 1970s data, to project, to 2050-2060, to "refute" Hansen's May 2012 media:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/op...mate.html?_r=1

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/op...mate.html?_r=2

But near-term, things will be bad enough. Over the next several decades, the Western United States and the semi-arid region from North Dakota to Texas will develop semi-permanent drought, with rain, when it does come, occurring in extreme events with heavy flooding. Economic losses would be incalculable. More and more of the Midwest would be a dust bowl. California’s Central Valley could no longer be irrigated. Food prices would rise to unprecedented levels.

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President Obama speaks of a “planet in peril,” but he does not provide the leadership needed to change the world’s course. Our leaders must speak candidly to the public — which yearns for open, honest discussion — explaining that our continued technological leadership and economic well-being demand a reasoned change of our energy course. History has shown that the American public can rise to the challenge, but leadership is essential.

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Big whoop.

Hoerling uses his 2005 paper, rants about how it is peer-reviewed, and it is obsolete media, which Hansen's is, instantly, since both of these guys are 1970s type-doctors, hanging on.

Hoerling has no business, hanging on, in the 21st Century, since his 1970s dataset is obsolete, it was over-projected, to the 21st Century, by dubious publishing, in 2005, while Hansen has 2012 relevance, even though Hansen has not concisely stated, how the mid-American aquifers are failing, while Habub storms descend on Phoenix, regularly, and such dust-storms are appearing, in other states, now.

Hansen hasn't announced Mass Extinction Event 6 OR the phasic nature, of runaway global warming, in a concise enough way. But he means well. Hoerling does not, and he will not be with the NOAA, much longer, as the US starts to get rid of guys, who publish, in wattsupwiththat.com

WattsUpWithThat is still just a lousy denier site, funded by Heartland Corp. When they have something worth looking at, I'll find out, since I regularly visit this site. It is no longer worth calling the name, "skeptic," but it still is the best place to download certain valid graphs.

When Hansen doesn't admit a mass extinction event happens, every time CO2 concentration goes up, partly as fast as it is rising, today, and he props carbon credits, instead of massive social reforms, which end the carbon footprint, of corruption, while swinging alternative resources into use, Hansen enables Heartland Corp. media, to continue.

Heartland Corp. does have its followers, including former TV weatherman Anthony Watt, who can't get another job, unless it is for some bogus, RWNJ propagandist.

Hansen is correct, anyway. Climate change is bringing alternative drought or deluge, to a lot of places, including to the US SW. Arguing with this point is just more flat-earth ranting. NO, when the shelf ice melts, it won't fall off the edge of the Earth, and temperatures will be hotter. Sorry.

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