So....the things that Kerry and Edwards are currently going around saying they support are in Bush's Energy Policy. And yet, they are 2 of the very Senators who has not even allowed it to come to the Senate floor for discussion. What this boils down to folks.....is that these two Democrats simply fight anything that would give a Republican president an achievement. Bills are supposed to be about discussion.....and compromise. And because this one contains two things they are totally against, they don't even want it discussed. Mainly because they know if allowed to come up for a vote, it would probably pass. So folks......blame these two Senators, Kerry & Edwards, for the fact that we can't get going on some of these much needed proposals. Simply passing this bill into law and getting started on this, would go a long way on prices. Blame the Dems for the high price of gasoline and oil products.



"While Kerry and Bush blame each other for high energy costs, they agree on the fundamental goal of expanding alternative-fuel use, as well as on many of the ways government can help attain it. The president's energy bill, which has been stuck in Congress for months, contains many of the ideas Kerry talked about here on Jim and Ruth Nelson's farm.

Both candidates support a plan to ensure a minimum of 5 billion gallons of renewable fuels are in use by 2012; extending ethanol tax incentives and providing consumers a big tax break for buying alternative-fuel vehicles. Both support a government role in making hydrogen-fueled vehicles a big part of the future. Both envision paying for these programs, in part, by making federal office buildings more energy efficient. "We're not trying to pretend this is all new stuff," said Sarah Bianchi, Kerry's policy adviser.

These ideas are included in Bush's energy bill, which Kerry, Edwards and many other Democrats oppose. This "flies in the face of what they are talking about on the campaign stump," Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.) said in a conference call arranged by the Bush campaign.

Where the candidates diverge is on issues such as drilling in Alaska and legal protections for producers of MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether, a gasoline additive). Kerry and Edwards oppose both measures, while Bush supports them."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Aug6.html

Read your energy bill again. It actually cuts the funding for remewable resources. It also turns the environment into a playground for oil companies by opening up drill in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. It also de-regulates the energy companies. While it would help ease our reliance on Middle Eastern oil, it still leaves us just as reliant on oil and cuts teh funding that would look for new sources of energy. This energy policy is not an awnser to our problems, all it does is make gas prices cheaper in the long run while passing on the real problems to the next administration.

-Demosthenes

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Bush and Cheney are both whores for big oil. NO ONE can debate that. Bush's energy commission was a bunch of oil industry people and the people serving on the committee was secret. Does this sound right to anyone?

Bush wants to do terrible and lasting environmental damage to the wildlife preserve in Alaska when even optimistic estimates don't amount to a significant amount of oil.

The era of oil is almost over. Sure there will be enough oil around for a long time, but China and India are going to push demand FAR beyond the supply and that will put the price of oil (i.e. gas for cars, heating oil for homes, etc.) far higher than the average person can afford.

If Bush could see past his own pocketbook and the pocketbook of his friends, he would admit that this country needs to make some serious decisions and we need to GREATLY expand our research into alternative and renewable sources of energy.

Halliburton and the whole energy industry will make Bush one of the richest men in the world after his term is over by paying him exorbitant fees as a payoff for selling out the American people and bending to their ever wish. Don't be surprised when you see Bush get paid record breaking fees for his personal appearances because the fees paid will not be for the inevitable babbling he provides in his appearances, but as payments for his work for big oil during his presidency.

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"George W. Bush surrounds himself with smart people the way a hole surrounds itself with a donut." —Dennis Miller

I guess JP5 doesn't make it this far down the forum. Shame, I thought this could have been an interesting debate.

-Demosthenes

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"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower