The atmosphere doesn't care if it gets warmer either.

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From your previous post - you seemed to think it significant that the political entity that is China emitted more greenhose gasses than the USA - even though per capita - Americans emit almost 5 times greenhouse gasses than the Chinese.

By your logic - it would them be appropriate that all European countries and Australia, South Africa, New Zealand etc. should all be able to incease their greenhouse emissions - as they are small countries with relatively small populations compared to China.

Is that right?

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White Fox, this is far worse than we thought. A Chinese Steel company is SELLING carbon credits!!!!!

This is a nightmare! China is exempt anyway and they are selling carbon credits, but an industry with a carbon foot print as big as steel mills being able to pollute as much as they want then selling carbon credits?

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If Obama couldn't lead such a small organization as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to success, how can any one bellieve he can lead this country to it?

You can blame your government for that. If they had have ratified Kyoto 10 years ago - we could have had 10 years of reseach into alternative technolgies which could have reduced China's carbon footprint.

Instead we have fools still trying to argue that AGW is not occurring - and in the meantime - China is travelling along exactly the same path the developed nations travelled before. The sheer stupidity of those that agrue against AGW for political reasons is breathtaking.

BTW: what do you care - I thought you said AGW was not occurring.

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After doing some more checking, low and behold the third and fourth (India exempt from Kyoto) largest polluters are selling carbon credits.

It's becoming painfully obvious, this has absolutely nothing to do with global warming. It is all about the money plain and simple. If that weren't the case, big polluters would be buying credits only and clean countries would selling them.

Now bear in mind Japan (ranked #5 in the top ten CO2 producers), Italy (ranked #10) and Spain (not in the top ten) must buy a combined $33 Billion dollars worth of carbon credits while top polluters are selling them. This is insanity!

http://www.solcomhouse.com/toptenco2.htm

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If Obama couldn't lead such a small organization as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to success, how can any one bellieve he can lead this country to it?

Why in the blue blazes do we have to do and pay for the research to reduce CHINA'S carbon foot print, isn't that THEIR job or they have to pay for credits?

Ah...a 30% to 50% jump in my own energy prices and an additional dollar a gallon for gasoline. I think that's a pretty good reason.

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If Obama couldn't lead such a small organization as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to success, how can any one bellieve he can lead this country to it?

No, it still has to do with global warming. It just uses a capitalist way of dealing with the problem.
It creates incentive for big polluters to not pollute as much. If they don't have to buy as much credits, it could mean more profits. It promotes efficiency by punishing inefficiency.
You need to stop thinking in terms of per nation, and start thinking in terms of per capita.

That's assuming CO2 is causing the bulk of the warming, for which there is no hard evidence only a partial consensus which is to assume and that usually make an *** out of U and ME

The incentive for Wuhan Iron and Steel is what, since China is exempt?

Since you believe CO2 is the main cause and China produces 22.1% of the carbon emissions, that carbon is somehow LESS polluting than say Italy who produces 1.4% of the CO2 which is MORE polluting and therefore China should be exempt??

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If Obama couldn't lead such a small organization as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to success, how can any one bellieve he can lead this country to it?

There will never be 100% agreement on the causes of changes in the environment. And no, politicians are not making policy in assumption, it's basic risk assessment. Tho, I agree they talk to the public in a condescending way since most the of the population wouldn't fully understand the arguments. It's (*)(*)(*)(*), but this is what happens when dumb people vote

If they pollute less, they have more credit to sell. So they have to weigh the benefits of increasing their emmisions over having more credit to sell. It's the same as for developed countries, but just in reverse.

Weren't you just saying something about assuming? I treat the issue like any other sane individual would; risk assessment. I still have my doubts, but am not willing to risk the life of my children based on what I've studied.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/per%20capita

But yes, there are a few Kyoto agreements which are not perfectly fair, but your example doesn't work there.

Everyone should be allowed to increase their greenhouse gas emissions. There should be no restraint on anyone.

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"It is extremely difficult for our contemporaries to conceive of the conditions of free banking because they take government interference with banking for granted and as necessary"

-- Ludwig von Mises