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Old 04-23-2008, 09:42 AM
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Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the
“funeral pyre of the Hindus.”
80 million Hindus
What a logically devoid undertaking: take everything in which a Muslim was involved, and attribute all the deaths to Islam. Be sure to use the most extreme estimates developed by partisans with an ax to grind -- like Koenraad Elst (your source can't even spell his name right), a Belgian with anti-Muslim views driven, in part, by his strong, near-unquestioning support for Hindu nationalists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenraad_Elst

Never mind that much of the claim is simply wrong. The idea that "Hindu Kush" means "killer of Hindus" postdates the actual term by a century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Kush

It actually means "Seat of the Hindus" or even simply "Hindu mountains." And even the "killer of Hindus" version refers to the mountains' height and deadliness, not Islamic slaughter.
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These statistics do not even consider all the muslim jihads that have been ongoing since muhammed or the number would be in the billions. muslims have killed more people in the name of their religion than all the major and minor religions combined, by very far. islam is a scourge on humanity, greatest force for evil the world has ever known, an evil so consistent by the muslims that it is conisderd perfect. They lie about their peaceful intentions while we allow them to infiltrate us, they demand we change our society to accommodate them while they plot our murder, conquest, rape, and abuse of our women and children. islam is far worse than anything ever imagined in the bible or anything ever conceived as evil. islam defines evil. The fact that it is able to package itself for foolish infidels to swallow and are willing to deceive, torture, rape, pillage, murder, and puke on knowledge and progress is simply more evidence of their absolute evil.

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These statistics do not even consider all the muslim jihads that have been ongoing since muhammed or the number would be in the billions. muslims have killed more people in the name of their religion than all the major and minor religions combined, by very far. islam is a scourge on humanity, greatest force for evil the world has ever known, an evil so consistent by the muslims that it is conisderd perfect. They lie about their peaceful intentions while we allow them to infiltrate us, they demand we change our society to accommodate them while they plot our murder, conquest, rape, and abuse of our women and children. islam is far worse than anything ever imagined in the bible or anything ever conceived as evil. islam defines evil. The fact that it is able to package itself for foolish infidels to swallow and are willing to deceive, torture, rape, pillage, murder, and puke on knowledge and progress is simply more evidence of their absolute evil.
Yes, they are so terribly violent. We must kill all of them for it!

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Now that's really out of context. Jesus did not say to do that. The nobleman in the parable Jesus was telling said that. Even if you think Jesus was talking about himself in the parable, the analogy would suggest that the killing should not begin until after the Second Coming.
Oh....I see. So the commands to kill in the Bible are "taken out of context"....but all the people here quoting the Koran are such learned Koranic scholars that they are sure of the context of their quotes.

OK, whatever...
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Oh....I see. So the commands to kill in the Bible are "taken out of context"....but all the people here quoting the Koran are such learned Koranic scholars that they are sure of the context of their quotes.

OK, whatever...
Well, that one is clearly, blatently out of context, assuming fifthofnovermber is interpreting the Bible accurately. What bothers me is when they say that the first half of the Bible doesn't apply anymore, but still quote it anway. That's just hypocracy.

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What, The Torah is not applicable?
Who the hell said that **** it?
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What, The Torah is not applicable?
Who the hell said that **** it?

If you are a Christian you believe that Jesus fulfilled the first covenant ( the Torah) and have a new covenant with God ( Jesus/the New Testement).
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I'm not a Christian.
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If you are a Christian you believe that Jesus fulfilled the first covenant ( the Torah) and have a new covenant with God ( Jesus/the New Testement).
Sadly, a good deal of Christians don't care. The first covenant tells them it's okay to hate people, Jesus's message of love be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
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Problems do arise in translating between Arabic and English.

Mohammad said to annoy non believers by ringing on their doorbell and thrusting literature into their hands. Somehow, Pickthall mistranslated that as killing non believers by thrusting a scimitar through their neck.

It's a simple mistake that anybody could make who was unfamiliar with Arabic anatomical nomenclature.
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