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Old 09-03-2006, 09:07 AM
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Since the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is a conflict in which both sides have some justice on their side (as once put by Ze'ev Jabotinsky and Chaim Weizmann), the Zionists propagandists resorted to extreme measures to demonize the Palestinian people. In their quest to demonize the Palestinian people, the Bible & the Holocaust have been cited to achieve the following:

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To obscure facts and to deflect the core issues of the conflict
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To gain a world wide sympathy for the Zionist enterprise.

Chief among these propaganda (or demonizing) tactics is the cite al-Hajj Amin al-Husseini's collaboration with the Nazis during WW II, while obscuring the fact that the Stern Terror Gang (once lead by Yitzhak Shamir) collaborated with the Nazis against the British Mandate during the same period (Israel: A History, p. 111-112). It is worth pointing out, also, that the Irgun (once led by Menachem Begin) attacked the British war machine and terrorized Palestinians while the Holocaust was in progress in Europe's concentration camps. Such facts are often hidden and purposely suppressed in most Jewish communities around the world, and for fairness sake, they must be debated.

Briefly, the Zionist enterprise will use all possible means to achieve its goals, including the exploitation of the Holocaust to portray Palestinians as Nazis, citing the Bible to paint the "Jewish state" as a divine prophecy, and above all using Hollywood's resources to demonize Arabs and Muslims. Ironically, the Bible was never cited nor exploited to mobilize the world Jewish community to "redeem Eretz Yisrael" during the Crusades' genocide!
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:39 AM
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"Zionists propagandists resorted to extreme measures to demonize the Palestinian people"

Really haven't had to resort to much hatebating. You target our chilren, elderly, civilians. How hard do you think it is to demonize that ?! Anybody with an IQ over 40 can appreciate the demon mentality found in many Palestinians' minds and actons. But the worst part is that the entire Muslem world demonizes Jews. 12th man posted a link to 3 movies made in Iran and intended for children, that was pure and simple hatebating. You raise your children to hate Jews .. and often others.

"Chief among these propaganda (or demonizing) tactics is the cite al-Hajj Amin al-Husseini's collaboration with the Nazis during WW II"

Yes, there are plenty of pictures of him kissing the asses of high ranking Nazi officials. He wanted to bring the final solution to Israel. He also donated troops to the Nazi military. I'd say he was a fairly active Nazi.

"obscuring the fact that the Stern Terror Gang (once lead by Yitzhak Shamir) collaborated with the Nazis against the British Mandate during the same period"

The Stern Gang never donated troops to the Nazis. There are no pictures of Stern Gang members kissing Nazi asses. That's because he organization simply wanted the Brits out of Israel for 2 reasons: 1) Because the Brits where not allowing Jews fleeing the Nazis to enter Israel. 2)Because the British where not protecting the Jews enough from the Arabs and at the same time cracking down on Israeli self-defense organizations. They where not sabatoging England general war efforts, just the mandate. They certainly didn't want the Nazis to win. They just wanted the UK out of Israel for very good reasons.

"the Irgun (once led by Menachem Begin) attacked the British war machine and terrorized Palestinians"

They wanted the Brits out cuz Brits have, for the most part, been Arab lovers. The Brits where very biased and corrupt against Jewish interests. They literally turned Jewish refugee boats away from Israel. And as for the Palestinians, I think that was a bit of back n forth violence. Unless you mean to imply that the Arabs of this country where angels who didn't target Jewish farmers and other civilians.

"Such facts are often hidden and purposely suppressed in most Jewish communities around the world, and for fairness sake, they must be debated"

They are in fact quite open. I'll be glad to debate this and all Arab attrocities anytime you'd like. Problem is that in debates you have to answer questions. Think you can handle that Political ?? So far you haven't been to good at that.

"exploitation of the Holocaust to portray Palestinians as Nazis"

Not all Palestinians where Nazis, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti, the spiritual leader of the Muslem Palestinian community, was a Nazi. The way Palestinians raise there children to hate is also remenicent of Nazi society. Hey .. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

"citing the Bible to paint the "Jewish state" as a divine prophecy"

And that's not what Muslems are claiming ?! It was in fact you Political that said that Muslems are fighting for Israel because it's Muslem holy land !! Hypocracy much ?! Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question. Also, Israel is willing to live with half of that "divine prophesy" in order to maintain peace. It's all you and your greed !! Disgusting !!

"using Hollywood's resources to demonize Arabs and Muslims"

Please elaborate. Areyou saying that Jews own Hollywood ? Realize that since 90%+ of terrorist acts are commited by young to middle aged Muslem males, you are typecast for that role. If you didn't make things go boom, movies wouldn't keep portraying you as making things go boom.

"world Jewish community to "redeem Eretz Yisrael" during the Crusades' genocide!"

Yet Jews where living right here in Israel. Jews have always been here !!! Right through the Romans, Christians, and Muslems. Since when do you get to set the expiration date on getting back your motherland where your people have always lived. And if you want to discuss how the Muslems treated the Jews under their control, I'd be glad to go there too.

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Old 09-04-2006, 08:34 AM
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such a long post and u dont even use the quote facility to make it clear.whatever i deny the holocaust-the real holocaust was of the german people commited by the zionists by lending them money and high rates of intrest when they had no money to eat-the real holocaust is taking plave now in palestine
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you can deny anything that you want to. Nobody really cares what you believe. The culperate has accepted responsibility, and that's a lot better proof than anything coming out of the Muslem world. A religion that allows lying !!

And the "holocaust" in the Palestinian territories has resulted in a population explosion that the Palestinians can't possibly support. A holocaust that has resulted in a population explosion. Makes sense . And maybe you can explain to me why when the Palestinians are suffering, Arafat died with over a billion dollars in Swiss bank accounts.

And as far as the German "holocaust". I didn't see any Muslems lending the Germans any money period. So you would have simply let them starve. I don't really know if the high interest loans are factual or just another Muslem story. A link would be useful. Thanks.
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there were no muslims in germany at that time and even if they were few they were in the same miserable condition as the other normal germans-only th zionists jews were enjoying themselves there
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Would love to see a link to this. Only Jewish Zionist where enjoying themselves. I am certain that plenty of Jews felt the pinch. Germany was one of the most assimilated Jewish communities in Europe. That's why the holocaust came as such a surprise. Plenty of Jews served in WW1. Plenty of Jews suffered during the depression. And so far no links to the high interest rate loans you speak of.
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First I see that using American sayings like "buy a clue" is pointless as your grasp on the language is shaky. Not your fault. It's actually not bad for a foreignor. But "buy a clue" has nothing to do with buying the truth.

Secondly I don't see how truth can stand away from falsehood when there are so many Muslems in the world .. a religion that actually allows lying.

All you have to do to convince me that Jews braught the holocaust upon themselves is to bring me links showing that Jews (and only Jews) where lending Germany money @ high interest rates, and to show that only Jews has people in their communities that managed to stay comfortable during this period. I doubt you can do either.
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Jews have manipulated into their possession evangelical hearts and minds all across America via the Old Testament. People such as Pat Robertson are the world's most shameful stooges.
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such a long post and u dont even use the quote facility to make it clear.whatever i deny the holocaust-the real holocaust was of the german people commited by the zionists by lending them money and high rates of intrest when they had no money to eat-the real holocaust is taking plave now in palestine
The Jews cannot control themselves. They take everything they can from everyone. They can't seem to help it. Eventually, after much pain and suffering, death and destruction, the host people will expel the Jews. It has happened repeatedly throughout history. Every nation on earth has expelled the Jews. History repeats itself.

The Jews bring destruction on themselves only after they have dealt a hideous blood bath for others. They are up to same old tricks again.

I predict the day will come when Arab rage will explode and Israel will be reduced to rubble.
It is a shame there can't be peace, but like Mel Gibosn said, Jews cause all the wars.
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