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Old 02-05-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default War in Iraq Spurs Massive Migration

"Nearly 2 million Iraqis -- about 8 percent of the prewar population -- have embarked on a desperate migration, mostly to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, according to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16967176

But don't they know we're winning???? Don't they know they have freedom now?????????? Don't they know it's just good times in Iraq??????????

ROTFLMAO. You have to be a braindead moron to buy the Neocon's propaganda in this whole mess.

Rumsfeld admits over $2 trillion is missing. Close to 100,000 people are dead and almost 2 million have left, including thousands of doctors and other skilled professionals.

NOBODY WANTS YOUR NEW "PARADISE", BUSH. It's all a fraud.
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I think the enormity and scope of the Iraq Fiasco will be difficult to comprehend for historians of the present generation.

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Oh, gotcha - like tens of thousands of UK children were sent to Canada and the US during the blitz? Guess that proves UK wasn't a democracy. Appeaser logic is endlessly entertaining!
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Nearly 2 million Iraqis -- about 8 percent of the prewar population -- have embarked on a desperate migration, mostly to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, according to the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

Those numbers mean that most of the iraqis that can afford to leave Iraq have already left.. which means the middle class of that country has already abandoned all hope of their situation getting better anytime soon. The Iraqi middle class is in mass exodus.. people like engineers, doctors, teachers, etc are either dead, dying or leaving.


No amount of bullcrap from neocon apologist like Jake will alter the reality of the situation.
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Oh, gotcha - like tens of thousands of UK children were sent to Canada and the US during the blitz? Guess that proves UK wasn't a democracy. Appeaser logic is endlessly entertaining!
Britain was stable before the Blitz. Post-Saddam Iraq has yet to become stable.

And all available evidence shows that these migrations appear to be permanent, especially among doctors and other professionals.
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Professionals Fleeing Iraq As Violence, Threats Persist

Exodus of Educated Elite Puts Rebuilding at Risk

By Doug Struck
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, January 23, 2006; Page A01

BAGHDAD -- The office of Iraq's most eminent cardiologist is padlocked. A handwritten sign is taped on his wooden door in the private clinic in Baghdad: Patients of Dr. Omar Kubasi should call him in Amman, Jordan.

There, Kubasi, 63, spends his days sitting at a cafe with other physicians and professionals from Iraq. Frustrated, he watches from afar as the medical education system he helped set up during his 36-year career slowly disintegrates. His teaching doctors are fleeing the country in fear. Younger physicians are looking for other countries to train in. Even patients are leaving, no longer confident in the care they can get in Iraq.

"I think it's part of the plan for the country's destruction," Kubasi said by telephone. "The situation in the last six months has gotten so bad, we couldn't continue."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012201112.html


Doctors Under Fire in Iraq


by Aaron Glantz with Salam Talib

Until two weeks ago, Ali Falah worked as an emergency room doctor in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk. The city, which is ethnically mixed but dominated by two Kurdish militias, has been the scene of increased sectarian violence. Most doctors left the city earlier this year after one physician was gunned down inside the emergency room.

Falah says lately he's often been the only doctor on the floor of an emergency room that receives 80 patients a day. Falah says he was ready to hang on and continue working, but two weeks ago someone dropped a note off at his home in a Shi'ite section of Kirkuk.

"They threw a letter in the house saying the residents who are Shia have to leave the city," he says. "Otherwise, they said, 'What will happen, will happen.' So most of the people left. Me also."

Falah says that was the last straw. He left for the southern province of Amara, where he's living near his fiancée's family. He's given up medicine, saying it's too dangerous, and is working for a company. He won't say which type.

http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=9719


Doctors Fleeing Iraq


Associated Press | November 22, 2006

VIENNA, Austria - Iraq's top doctors are under threat and are fleeing the country, leaving hospitals in the hands of medical students or junior physicians, an Iraqi lawmaker said Wednesday.

Doctors have been kidnapped and killed since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 that toppled ex-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, said Dr. Rajaa al-Khuzai, an obstetrician who is an elected member of the Iraqi National Council.

"They have been targeted since the fall of the regime," she told The Associated Press during a visit to Austria. "Some of them have been kidnapped and found dead in the streets, some have been released after paying a ransom."

She also told reporters earlier Wednesday that Iraqi hospitals face a shortage of medicines and are in dire need of new equipment.

"We were promised, or we believed, that we would have many new hospitals being built, and many health centers ... but none of this has been done," she said. "No hospitals have been built so far; only some of the hospitals have been serviced."

"So if you want to see a good ophthalmologist in Baghdad, you'll never find one. If you want a good gynecologist ... you'll never find one," she said. "The health services are very bad."

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/...?ESRC=iraq.RSS
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What your post actually proves, Joke, is that you have become desperate.

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Never mind the difference between tens of thousands out of a population of 60 million, and 3.7 million or so out of a population of 27 million....

C'mon, Jake. At least try to pretend you're being thoughtful.
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Never mind the difference between tens of thousands out of a population of 60 million, and 3.7 million or so out of a population of 27 million....

C'mon, Jake. At least try to pretend you're being thoughtful.

not just the higher percentage of people leaving, it's the class of people leaving which in this case is the professional class which any society needs to be viable.
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Yep. Many of these people left to escape Saddam. He was overthrown, they returned. Now they're leaving again -- along with a whole bunch of people who stuck it out under Saddam. What does that tell you?
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