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Default Resilient Iraqis ask what civil war?

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Despite sectarian slaughter, ethnic cleansing and homicide bombs, an opinion poll conducted on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq has found a striking resilience and optimism among the inhabitants.

The poll, the biggest since coalition troops entered Iraq on March 20, 2003, shows that by a majority of two to one, Iraqis prefer the current leadership to Saddam Hussein 's regime, regardless of the security crisis and a lack of public services.

The survey, published today, also reveals that contrary to the views of many western analysts, most Iraqis do not believe they are embroiled in a civil war .
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So much for that..guess the "civil war" crowd needs to do more to convice the people there that they are in a "civil war" becasue apparently they just wont accept the "truth(tm)"
Oh yeah that it would be so much better had we never done anything.....they don't buy that either.
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No "Semantics" involved ..its a blunt denial by the people living there of the rhetoric you and others use to describe theiir situation.

Majority of Iraqis do not believe they are in a civil war.
Sorry.
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Better send that memo to the 2million external Iraqi refugees and the other 2million internal Iraqi refugees.

I'm sure they head back home as soon as they hear those polls results.
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Your Iraqi?
Ah no your not.

In this case your opinion is like a cowpaddy.
Stinks in the beginning..then it dries up..then it blows away with the wind.






4 million huh...ok
4 million people you don't feel its worth fighting for displaced by people you don't feel its worth fighting.
So why are you using them?
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Whether you call it civil war or war between or among "Regligious" \etnic factions it amounts to the same thing - people die, life gets disrupted, and if you have an ineffectual government to start with it can lead to breakdown.

Does it matter if the Sunni slug who drives a 1987 Toyota loaded with 1000 ibs of explosive into a crowded market of Shiite shoppers a civil warrior or a terrorist the result is still the same. B O OOOOO M !!!! DEAD DYING CRIPPLED !!!! EOS !!!
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Yes becasue the Civil War routine is an excuse to say

"See they are only killing each other..It not our Problem..We can leave and it wonlt be giving up to Terrorists"

..and

YES

Because the people there do not describe what is occuring as a CIVIL WAR..so neither should you.
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Your Iraqi?
Ah no your not.

In this case your opinion is like a cowpaddy.
Stinks in the beginning..then it dries up..then it blows away with the wind.
Just like your opinions, Duh


BTW, since things are so great over there, when are you moving to Iraq?
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No.... this isn't my opinion.
I'm not pushing my opinion over the opinions of those there.
I am presenting their opinion.
Their opinion outweighs yours and mine on what the reality of the situation as they see.


They do not agree that doing nothing to Saddam was a great idea.
They do not agree life was etter under Saddam then now.
They don't agree that they are culturally are incapable of enjoying democracy and freedom.

They don't agree that there is a Civil War.
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Lovely.. the people polled say say no civilwar and things are great. That means the US military can leave now.


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Heres another thread about civilwar in Iraq. Mods thought it wasn't current events so they moved it elsewhere..
http://politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=26451&start=0
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SECURITY in Iraq is "moving in a negative direction" and that the term "civil war" aptly describes elements of the conflict there, US intelligence chief Michael McConnell said overnight.

"Unless efforts to reverse these conditions gain real traction during the 12-18 month time frame ... we assess that the security situation will continue to deteriorate at rates comparable to the latter half of 2006," Mr McConnell told the US Senate Armed Services Committee.

The director of national intelligence also said "the term 'civil war' accurately describes key elements of the Iraqi conflict" including the hardening of sectarian divisions and population "displacements".
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