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Al-Sadr followers sitting in Parliament withdrew from the Iraqi-led government. The main reason mentioned in this article is that they are angry about Al-Sadr militia members being arrested. I'd like to provide my own suggestions at what their real reasons for doing so were.

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Departure of six ministers seen as blow to the al-Maliki government


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Cabinet ministers loyal to the radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr resigned Monday to protest the prime minister’s refusal to set a timetable for an American withdrawal, raising the prospect that the Mahdi Army militia could return to the streets of Baghdad.

The number of bodies found dumped in Baghdad increased sharply on Sunday to 30 — from as low as five in recent days — in a possible sign of the militia’s resurgence, even ahead of the six resignations.

The bodies, most of them tortured before they were shot execution-style, are widely believed to be the victims of Shiite death squads associated with the Mahdi Army. Al-Sadr had ordered his fighters hide their weapons and stay off the streets shortly before the U.S. troop surge and security crackdown began on Feb. 14.

The departure of the six ministers, while unlikely to topple Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government, deals a significant blow to the U.S.-backed leader, who relied on support from the Sadrists to gain office.

Members of the al-Sadr bloc in parliament confirmed the resignations Monday afternoon.

White House reaction
The White House said al-Sadr’s decision to pull out his ministers does not mean that al-Maliki loses his majority.

“I’d remind you that Iraq’s system of government is a parliamentary democracy and it’s different from our system. So coalitions and those types of parliamentary democracies can come and go,” said Dana Perino, a White House spokeswoman.

Al-Sadr, who has tremendous influence among Iraq’s majority Shiites, has been upset about recent arrests of his Mahdi Army fighters in the U.S.-led Baghdad security crackdown. He and his followers have also criticized al-Maliki for failing to back calls for a timetable for U.S. troops to leave the country.

The prime minister issued a statement later Monday saying “the withdrawal of multinational forces is linked to our armed forces’ readiness to take over the security command in all provinces.”

Two American soldiers were killed Monday in Baghdad, one in a roadside bombing and a second who came under fire on patrol, the U.S. military said.

Earlier in the day, Nassar al-Rubaie, head of the Sadrist bloc, read a statement declaring that the ministers would “withdraw immediately from the Iraqi government and give the six Cabinet seats to the government, with the hope that they will be given to independents who represent the will of the people.”

“I ask God to provide the Iraqi people with an independent government, far from (U.S.) occupation, that does all it can to serve the people,” the statement said.

Pulling power
Tens of thousands of Iraqis answered a call by al-Sadr to rally in the holy Shiite city of Najaf last week to protest against the presence of some 140,000 U.S.-led forces in Iraq. Al-Sadr himself did not appear — U.S. officials say he is in hiding in Iran, but his aides insist he is still in Iraq.

Before he entered mainstream politics, al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army fought two uprisings against U.S. forces in 2004. Since then, the militia has been involved in tit-for-tat attacks against minority Sunni Arabs amid spiraling sectarian violence.

The militia, blamed for many of the targeted killings that have left thousands of bodies tortured and shot on Baghdad’s streets, has kept a low profile since the launch of a major security crackdown in Baghdad, reportedly on the orders of al-Sadr.
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Al-Sadr is gambling that everyone in the US thinks there should be some type of timetable pull-out. Guess where he got that idea from?

Why exactly does he want a pullout date? So his friends in other countries can know when to release the hounds.
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umm, cheese, since you are already convinced that the US military should be fighting in this iraqi civilwar... which side do you think should the USA be supporting, sunni shiite kurd?
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umm, cheese, since you are convinced that the US military should be fighting in this iraqi civilwar... which side do you think should the USA be supporting, sunni shiite kurd?
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Is that he wants the foreign troops to leave because he does not want his country occupied.

So let me ask you a question Cheese, If our country was conquered and occupied by a foreign military force, one that was not following or seem bound by law, etc. Would you want them to leave the USA?
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Is that he wants the foreign troops to leave because he does not want his country occupied.

So let me ask you a question Cheese, If our country was conquered and occupied by a foreign military force, one that was not following or seem bound by law, etc. Would you want them to leave the USA?
But I think I would make every effort to make it so - meaning that I wouldn't have taken away a chance to make it so if there were leaders in the government who were my constituents.

Unless, I were given some sort of signal...hmmmm, I wonder who sent it?
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Iraq is not occupied.
Iraq is not in a Civil War.
al Sadr is a Terrorist.
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I am on topic, cheese. Your question was..

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So you already think the US military should be fighting the civil war among iraqis. So which side do you want the US military to fight for.. sunni shiite or kurd?



AS for me.. I say we sell weapons to alll three sides weapons and then watch those useless moslems blow each other to hell. Three men enter.. one man leaves.
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There is no Civil War.
There is no occupation.
al-Sadr is a Terrorist.


Now which side do you support?


They will never answer bluntly Cheese(been years of this skipping game form these people here)..all you need to do is read what they put down to know they support the Terrorists(or as they wil attimes call them the RESISTANCE) in Iraq but simply do not have the balls to say it becasue they still need to LIE about supporting Afghanistan and the war globally.
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