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Old 04-23-2008, 02:06 AM
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And all your evidence comes from www.hrw.org from 2001!!
And your point being? Human Rights Watch don't sit there and make up stories. They represent facts. Now if you choose not to believe them, that's another cup of tea, as you've been spoon-fed with something else in Serbia.



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Kosovo remained autonomic province in serbia.And yes he put amendments because political reasons. I agree on that. He did want to centralize(himself) power.
But all of this was after 1981.And yet Albanians protested before that.
He revoked Kosova's and Vojvodina's autonomy. The reason for that was to get more power. As Serbia felt it had been weakend during Tito's Yugoslavia.

After Tito's death, things started to change for the worse, that's the reaosn for the demonstrations in '81-and the years to come.



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Do you have any proofs that hundreds and towsends Albanians were fired from work and that Albanian was banned from schools. And if it was(but it didn’t)why did you protest in the 1981 you had all "political rights"?

You wouldn't know truth if it came and bit you on the arse.

Kosovo became a police state run by Belgrade.

Throughout 1990, the government closed most of the Albanian-language schools and, in January 1991, it stopped paying most Albanian high school teachers. By October 1991, all Albanian teachers had been fired; only fifteen Albanian professors remained at the university in Pristina, and they all taught in Serbian.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/kosovo/undword-01.htm

1991: Albanian is officially banned as the university’s main language of instruction, and henceforth, only Serb professors are authorized to teach courses.

As a result, hundreds of ethnic Albanian faculty members and administrative aides are expelled; 20,000 students are also banned from the campus.

In all, more than 18,000 teachers, professors and staff members are dismissed from schools and university faculties in Kosovo by the end of the year.

http://www.wes.org/ewenr/99july/research.htm


After Kosovo's autonomy was effectively revoked in 1989, the political situation in Kosovo became more and more divisive. Throughout late 1990 and 1991 thousands of Kosovo Albanian doctors, teachers, professors, workers, police and civil servants were dismissed from their positions. The local court in Kosovo was abolished and many judges removed. Police violence against Kosovo Albanians increased.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/jun/29/warcrimes




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Let me ask you one question did you vote? Did any Albanian vote after 1989?
Do you know that Albanians could remove Milosevic from power? Did you know that if you only "ONE" went to the elections and participated, his days of power would be over? If your leader organized a party and participated in elections, with your 1 million votes(and maybe more)you could aide serbian opposition and form government together. During the 90-es opposition was always on the edge of defeating Milosevic. Face it you could have put him down!!Only if you ever voted.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Albanians could NOT remove Milosevic. How naive and ignorant can one be. The Albanians were in no position to do that. And IF had been the case, there's no way in hell that Serbia would have allowed the Albanian Kosovars to decide whom Serbia's leader was going to be. That's like puting more salt on the wond

And last time I checked it was Serbia and its people who chose him. The majority of the people even chose to back him up in 4 wars.


When Kosova and Vojvodina still had their autonomy, they were equal members of the Yugoslav Federation to veto any laws it did not like.
That was something Serbia did not like.
Revocation of autonomies of these regions allowed Serbia to choose representatives of Kosova and Vojvodina in the Federal Government, therefore control the voting process. And who do you think Serbia chose to represent? Not Albanians that's for sure.

Also don't forget the Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences; Memorandum 1986.


So you see, the Albanians could NOT remove Milosevic. Serbia wouldn't have allowed it either as Serbia had became stronger than ever.



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Don’t talk about consequences because wary little people know the truth. So you don’t know what tomorrow brings. Did you know that Milosevic was in America for 10 years? And do you know that during the 1995-1998 the Americans called him "factor of stability “and peace keeper?

If life in Kosovo was worse than in Albania,and you can honestly say that.Then I can only wish you a bather life in the future.

You got to be joking LOL

Can you be so kind and show me where the Americans supposedly called him " peace keeper"/ " factor of stability"?

Did he choose peace in Slovenia
Did he choose peace in Croatia and Bosnia
Did he choose peace in Kosova

No, on the contrary. He chose war, and Serbia chose to back him up.

And that's why Serbia is in the possition it is today.




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And do you know that during the 1995-1998 the Americans called him "factor of stability “and peace keeper?


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And your point being? Human Rights Watch don't sit there and make up stories. They represent facts. Now if you choose not to believe them, that's another cup of tea, as you've been spoon-fed with something else in Serbia.





He revoked Kosova's and Vojvodina's autonomy. The reason for that was to get more power. As Serbia felt it had been weakend during Tito's Yugoslavia.

After Tito's death, things started to change for the worse, that's the reaosn for the demonstrations in '81-and the years to come.






You wouldn't know truth if it came and bit you on the arse.

Kosovo became a police state run by Belgrade.

Throughout 1990, the government closed most of the Albanian-language schools and, in January 1991, it stopped paying most Albanian high school teachers. By October 1991, all Albanian teachers had been fired; only fifteen Albanian professors remained at the university in Pristina, and they all taught in Serbian.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/kosovo/undword-01.htm

1991: Albanian is officially banned as the university’s main language of instruction, and henceforth, only Serb professors are authorized to teach courses.

As a result, hundreds of ethnic Albanian faculty members and administrative aides are expelled; 20,000 students are also banned from the campus.

In all, more than 18,000 teachers, professors and staff members are dismissed from schools and university faculties in Kosovo by the end of the year.

http://www.wes.org/ewenr/99july/research.htm


After Kosovo's autonomy was effectively revoked in 1989, the political situation in Kosovo became more and more divisive. Throughout late 1990 and 1991 thousands of Kosovo Albanian doctors, teachers, professors, workers, police and civil servants were dismissed from their positions. The local court in Kosovo was abolished and many judges removed. Police violence against Kosovo Albanians increased.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/jun/29/warcrimes







Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Albanians could NOT remove Milosevic. How naive and ignorant can one be. The Albanians were in no position to do that. And IF had been the case, there's no way in hell that Serbia would have allowed the Albanian Kosovars to decide whom Serbia's leader was going to be. That's like puting more salt on the wond

And last time I checked it was Serbia and its people who chose him. The majority of the people even chose to back him up in 4 wars.


When Kosova and Vojvodina still had their autonomy, they were equal members of the Yugoslav Federation to veto any laws it did not like.
That was something Serbia did not like.
Revocation of autonomies of these regions allowed Serbia to choose representatives of Kosova and Vojvodina in the Federal Government, therefore control the voting process. And who do you think Serbia chose to represent? Not Albanians that's for sure.

Also don't forget the Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences; Memorandum 1986.


So you see, the Albanians could NOT remove Milosevic. Serbia wouldn't have allowed it either as Serbia had became stronger than ever.






You got to be joking LOL

Can you be so kind and show me where the Americans supposedly called him " peace keeper"/ " factor of stability"?

Did he choose peace in Slovenia
Did he choose peace in Croatia and Bosnia
Did he choose peace in Kosova

No, on the contrary. He chose war, and Serbia chose to back him up.

And that's why Serbia is in the possition it is today.




The way you make your bed, the way you have to sleep in it.
You did not answer my questions. Pleas do.

Second the your evidence comes from 2001.How reliable is that? And were are the evidences, not something somebody wrote on webpage.
HRW is CIA org.

face it you hade te power to make some peaceful changes, but you did not participate in any elections. You could helped the opposition to defeat Milosevic, and from government. You could not have prim minister but you could have ministers in that government. You hade more then million votes, that is big power. Another thing you hade president of Yugoslavia remember?
It is trough that a big number(almost from every house)of Kosovo Serbs were in police.

If you didn’t know i will tell you. The number of Serbians that evaded the drafting call in 1991 was 70% in Serbia, and more than 80% in Belgrade .And the rest that received the call had to report to units, because if they did not they would be call to military court .My father in law received it during the night, and he had to report.
Yus to let you know my father refused to go to war in Croatia in 1991,and his whol unit of reservists would not go.And they were disband and relisted home.
And do you remember the protests in Belgrade?

The Americans called him factor of stability after Dayton in 1995.
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