The outcome of the situation remains undetermined, and the 27%ers and their leaders are calling it "successful."

I could be talking about nearly any facet of the war: it's final outcome, the performance of Donald Rumsfeld, or the surge.

But, in this case, I'm talking about the situation in Basra.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/28/wo...28iraq.html?hp

Iraqis kicking fighting the terrorists without the aid of Americans IS A SUCCESS! If we were fighting them you would probaly say "why cant the Iraqis fight for themselves?". Now that they are fighting terrorists by themselves you complain that Sader City is turning in to a war zone? Well no kidding! But why should you care? No Americans are dieing in sadr city and if you had it your way we would pull out of iraq and leave it to the insurgents to rape murder and destroy.

It's not a success until they DEFEAT the insurgents.

Just like the surge is not a success unless the results last longer than the surge itself.

Bush will call anything a success.

Victory is a self sustaining free and Democratic Iraq and an ally in the war on terror.

I dont see defeat the terrorist in sadr city in that definition! thats what liberals dont understand! The point isnt to fight terror in Iraq. Its to make iraq a self sustaining democracy that can handle their OWN PROBLEMS as an ally in the war on terror! Problems like this one! Compleatly defeating every terrorist organisation has nothing to do with US victory in Iraq! Enableing Iraq to do so is! But you want to put an Anti Bush spin on the story so you adopt an irellevent view. I would be outraged that one would do such a thing but then I remembered who I was talking to. Eather way you have no arguement in the end!

Dubya really must learn to shutup..."Go Shopping! Mission Accomplished! Bring it On! Success! rah rah rah!". His skills learned and time spent as a Yaley cheerleader has no place in his current occupation.


That said, I hope the Free Iraqis are successful in this op. For both our countries' sake.

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Every reduction of the Arab population in Iraq, be it by death or people leaving the country, is a success from their point of view! 1/4 of the population are already gone, gone in the sense of not necessarily dead but out of the country, and the numbers are increasing.

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Pretty much. Its Basra btw.

BTW this is what the Democrats demanded of the Iraqis..now watch them spin it to be a failure . Every time the Demorats are proven wrong they ignore it and continue on with their defeatist enemy comforting surrender mantras.


Then they tell you hey BTW we support sending your kids to Afghanstan and we will stand behind them there ..we promise!
pfffffff their word isn't worth anything at all and If they are elected to the presidency the USA's word will not be worth anything either.

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US Army has reintroduced the vietnam tactics.Give the Iraqis wepons and air support,and let them kill each other for US.

With this latest news in the Iraq war, I've realized how disassociated I am from it.

Will someone please be so kind as to give a history of this war? Time-lines would probably be useful as well.