From Wikipedia

Common Sense: Common sense (or, when used attributively as an adjective, commonsense, common-sense, or commonsensical), based on a strict construction of the term, consists of what people in common would agree on: that which they "sense" (in common) their common natural understanding. The phrase is often used to refer to beliefs or propositions that — in their opinion — most people would consider prudent and of sound judgment, without dependence upon esoteric knowledge or study or research, but based upon what they see as knowledge held by people "in common".

Logic: Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. The word derives from Greek λογική (logike), fem. of λογικός (logikos), "possessed of reason, intellectual, dialectical, argumentative", from λόγος logos, "word, thought, idea, argument, account, reason, or principle"

Deductive reasoning concerns what follows necessarily from given premises. However, inductive reasoning—the process of deriving a reliable generalization from observations—has sometimes been included in the study of logic. Correspondingly, we must distinguish between deductive validity and inductive validity (called "cogency"). An inference is deductively valid if and only if there is no possible situation in which all the premises are true and the conclusion false. The notion of deductive validity can be rigorously stated for systems of formal logic in terms of the well-understood notions of semantics. Inductive validity on the other hand requires us to define a reliable generalization of some set of observations. The task of providing this definition may be approached in various ways, some less formal than others; some of these definitions may use mathematical models of probability. For the most part this discussion of logic deals only with deductive logic. Deductive argument follows the pattern of a general premise to a particular one, there is a very strong relationship between the premise and the conclusion of the argument.



There is a clear difference. Common sense deals with what the majority of the people think. Logic deals with that which can be proved by what is observed in the world, unless it is pro tanto invalid.

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"It is extremely difficult for our contemporaries to conceive of the conditions of free banking because they take government interference with banking for granted and as necessary"

-- Ludwig von Mises

Anikdote at least has grasped what I'm saying. Either you are being deliberately obtrusive or you really are an imbecile. Judging by some of your previous responses I am beginning to suspect the latter. I know it is obviously difficult for you to challenge your pre-conceived ideas and the prevailing orthodoxy, but I was hoping you would be able to at least grasp this rather simple notion - namely that 'common sense', like 'freedom', 'liberty' etc are abstract and contentious notions, and therefore essentially worthless when used as a means to bolster a particular argument. Nevermind.

Abstract, yes. Contentious, yes. Worthless? Not in the least.

Most of the people will agree with and absorb just about any nonsense, so long as you put it in the right package. I think Obama could talk about human sacrifice and rituatlistic ethnic cleansing and some of the minority community would still vote for him. It's not so much the message that's delivered but, how you deliver it. Wrapping a negative issue, around happy fun 'key words' is much more effective than actually talking politics.

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Have I not just said that common sense is not necessarily logical, and therefore should not be used, because logic is superior. I think the "prevailing orthodoxy" would be a facet of what we call "common sense." Do you? Because I think it's worthless, and that prevailing ideas are not necessarily right ideas. If you cannot even understand the meanings of my posts, then who is really the imbecile?

Common sense refers to what you just called "the prevailing orthodoxy," does it not? It is not necessarily a logical, or consistent thing, but it has an exact meaning, defined by the majority of people. If you have ever found me to use common sense instead of logic, then please attack that argument, instead of what you understand to be my "prevailing orthodoxy" in these matters.

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"It is extremely difficult for our contemporaries to conceive of the conditions of free banking because they take government interference with banking for granted and as necessary"

-- Ludwig von Mises

I'm calling anyone who uses the word "liberal" in a negative context a bigot and it's mainly used as a negative by right-wing bigots these days especially on this forum


Well, I'm calling Liberals Bigots, because they have the most members that are bigots.
I call it as I see it?


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Only the Far Left would make the US military Surrender to an enemy whose primary means of "fighting" is the murder of civilians.

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McCain/Palin 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

I see. We are going to have a surrender ceremony like we did to Japan huh! Or maybe we can send Dania Parino out to sign our official surrender. Then we will pass legislation that say we all have to learn pharsi! Because if we surrender over there, we will have to surrender over here.
Only the Far Right would ask a society to burden the load of a corporate profit margin!
Only the Far right would use Terrorism as a political tool! (Al Qaeda wants Obama to be president/Kerry/Clinton-name your Democrat)
Only the far right would back their traitorous leader even when knowing he's a failure!

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I often call folks liberals,when they are. Plus I know it bothers them. However bigot is a little too deep for something as shallow as politcal debate.Take it easy.Our words here are meaningless in the big picture.

Dont let em see you sweat.

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Iraq people need to be free and I think that american soldiers have to beck home and let iraq people that they live alone in they country..that is they country not american........

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First, we had 'shock and awe' - thousands of Iraqis and Americans killed. Then we had 'mission accomplished' - thousands of Iraqis and Americans killed. Then we had 'things are not going quite as we planned' - thousands of Iraqis and Americans killed. Now we have 'things are much better' - thousands of Americans and Iraqis killed. The resistance will find a way to kill the occupiers. Why is that such a revelation to the neo-cons?