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			<title>Buddhism - One of the Fastest Growing Religions in the West</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:35:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Buddhism is deemed as the fastest growing religion in the west, including America, Australia and Canada. Is the growth of Buddhism in the west due to...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Buddhism is deemed as the fastest growing religion in the west, including America, Australia and Canada. Is the growth of Buddhism in the west due to immigration or by people converting to Buddhism? I believe the latter. Who is converting, Christians or non-religious folk?<br />
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 Another question that needs to be asked is, is Buddhism growing at the same rate (or faster) as Atheism in America and other western countries?<br />
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 <i>&quot;Buddhism is being recognized as the fastest growing religion in Western societies both in terms of new converts and more so in terms of friends of Buddhism, who seek to study and practice various aspects of Buddhism. As in the United States, Buddhism is ranked among the fastest growing religions in many Western European countries.<br />
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 The Australian Bureau of Statistics through statistical analysis held Buddhism to be the fastest growing spiritual tradition/religion in Australia in terms of percentage gain with a growth of 79.1% for the period 1996 to 2001 (200,000&#8594;358,000).<br />
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 Buddhism is the fastest-growing religion in England's jails, with the number of followers rising eightfold over the past decade.&quot; </i><br />
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 The largest Buddhist temple in the southern hemisphere is about 20 minute from my home in Australia. The temple is opened to the public seven days a week and on any given day packed with visitors and worshippers, both Caucasians and Asians.<br />
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Nan Tien Temple<br />
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			<title>This Pope has gone off the deep end</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 01:55:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was worried about this Pope when I learned that while he was cardinal of Buenos Aires, he:<br />
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1) Didn't ride in a limo, but took the bus and subway;<br />
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2) Didn't live in the cardinal's palace, but lived in a small apartment;<br />
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3) Had no servants, but cooked his own meals;<br />
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4) Returned all 30 rubber bands to the newspaper stand at the end of every month.<br />
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When elected Pope he continued the pattern, he:<br />
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1) Refused to live in the Papal apartments, but lived in a hotel room for guests<br />
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2) Refused to wear the normal Papal garments;<br />
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3) Personally called the news stand in Buenos Aires to cancel his newspaper<br />
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All of this looks like Francis is trying to get himself sainted, and maybe he will someday get that reward.  But it is not normal behavior in a cardinal or a pope.<br />
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But I was willing to accept all this.  After all, we've had saintly Popes before.  The Church has survived.<br />
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But now it turns out the Pope is careless too.<br />
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He has now announced that atheists who are &quot;good&quot; can be redeemed.<br />
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And I don't think he can back that up.<br />
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I do not believe he can PUT THAT IN WRITING in the form of an encyclical.<br />
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And I don't think he can make a pronouncement, EX CATHEDRA, that atheists who are &quot;good&quot; can be saved.<br />
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And the reason for that is that the Church has never before decreed the fate of a person who has not been baptized.<br />
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And to get around that problem, the Church has created three kinds of baptism.<br />
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Baptism by water -- what happens when the priest pours water over your head.<br />
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Baptism by blood -- what happens when a non-Christian is a martyr to the Christian faith.<br />
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Baptism by desire -- what happens when a person makes the decision to be baptized, but dies before he is.<br />
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Atheists don't fall into any of those three categories.<br />
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So I think this Pope has blundered, and eventually, he's going to have to back-track on this.<br />
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And that's going to upset a lot of people, and I hate to see that.</div>

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			<title>Will the U.S ever have an atheist majority?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 00:28:35 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>With atheism on the rise in Amerca, will christianity become a minority and atheism a majority?</description>
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			<title>Mom And Dad charged with murder</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:38:05 GMT</pubDate>
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A Philadelphia couple who believe in faith healing over medicine and who were on probation in their son's pneumonia death were charged with murder Wednesday after a second young child died under what a prosecutor called &quot;eerily similar&quot; circumstances.<br />
Herbert and Catherine Schaible ignored a court order to seek medical care if their children needed it, prosecutors said Wednesday. The requirement was a condition of the probation sentence they received after the death of their toddler son four years ago.<br />
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Should the gov't be getting involved in families religious rights?<br />
This isn't the 1st time parents have been charged or convicted when a child dies as a result of praying.</div>

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			<title>why are christians against the american plan?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 20:33:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>why?because they see it as sinful.their mongril of a god sees the world as his to dominate when america stands for freedom.the fact is,homelessness...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>why?because they see it as sinful.their mongril of a god sees the world as his to dominate when america stands for freedom.the fact is,homelessness is only an issue in &quot;faith based communites&quot;where they ignore the presidential and congressional mandate called the opening doors program to &quot;rapidly re-house the homeless in permanent and supportive housing.&quot;instead,the christian builds homeless shelters and packs what few souls who will surrender to their religion because you have to go to church to stay there,into these foodless and bedless places.you sleep on the floor on a mat.most of these hell-holes you are required to spend your days away from these shelters looking for gainful employment.all they've done is foster an enviroment where the criminal can lay low and not report to the proper authorities.</div>

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			<title>Pope Francis - Atheists Are Good If They Do Good</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 14:31:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>As a former atheist, I found them on a whole to be more tolerant and kinder than _nominal_ Christians.  The question remains though, how can someone...</description>
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As a former atheist, I found them on a whole to be more tolerant and kinder than <u>nominal</u> Christians.  The question remains though, how can someone achieve an eternal destiny with God if they have denied Him?  I want to believe though that an atheist, unless he is in a total state of rebellion, will be enlightened before death...albeit it be at the last minute.       </span><br />
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<i>Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions - or no religion - work together.</i></font><br />
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			<title>Religion: The most dangerous thing ever created by man.</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 07:01:11 GMT</pubDate>
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Religion is the most destructive, divisive, and dangerous thing man has ever created. Religion has caused more suffering and misery than any other force in human history. My tolerance for religion is teetering on the brink. I used to feel that it was OK as long as you didn't shove it down my throat. But now... I can feel my hostility toward your silly superstition simmering...</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[I've never seen an angel but two members of my family say they have]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:13:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've never seen an angel, so I don't know what an angel looks like.  But two members of my family have told me they've seen angels.  Let me tell you these stories.<br />
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My wife told me once that when she was in high school, she was about to step off a curb, and a car almost ran her over, but an angel pushed her out of her way and saved her life.<br />
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That's all I know.  We never discussed this again, and that was many years ago.<br />
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My daughter, when she was two-years-old, told my wife and I that she could see an angel while we were in the Los Angeles Mountains hiking.<br />
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Many years later, I asked my daughter about this, and she had no memory of the event.<br />
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Because of the circumstances of these stories, and the fact that my wife and daughter had no motive to lie, I believe that both of these were authentic sightings of angels.<br />
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			<title>Unchaste Women</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 00:08:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>An unchaste woman has lost her honor, unless she has wed in the Church before God, before her family and peers, before her community, before...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>An unchaste woman has lost her honor, unless she has wed in the Church before God, before her family and peers, before her community, before sacrificing her virginity.<br />
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Liberal women hate honor and pride.  This is why young women in America have sex outside marriage and are promiscuous.  They have no honor and don't want honor.<br />
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How can a man love a woman who has no honor or pride in herself, who is the town bicycle?<br />
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I don't understand this at all.  I don't understand how men can cherish these casualties of zionist mass media and our zionist public education.</div>

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			<title>What complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*): How God feels about storms.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 04:05:42 GMT</pubDate>
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Hey, God... how about you just not make the storms in the first place? :roll:</description>
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Hey, God... how about you just not make the storms in the first place? :roll:</div>

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			<title>Did Pope Francis perform an exorcism in front of TV audiences?</title>
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			Pope and the devil: Francis’ fascination with Satan leads to suspicion he performed exorcism<br />
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(APTN/ Associated Press ) - In this image made from video provided by APTN, Pope Francis lays his hands on the head of a young man on Sunday, May 19, 2013, after celebrating Mass in St. Peter’s Square. The young man heaved deeply a half-dozen times, convulsed and shook, and then slumped in his wheelchair as Francis prayed over him. The television station of the Italian bishops’ conference said it had surveyed exorcists, who agreed Francis either performed an exorcism or a prayer to free the man from the devil. The Vatican was more cautious Tuesday, saying Francis “didn’t intend to perform any exorcism. But as he often does for the sick or suffering, he simply intended to pray for someone.”<br />
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By Associated Press, <br />
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Updated: Tuesday, May 21, 3:33 PM<br />
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VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis’ fascination with the devil took on remarkable new twists Tuesday, with a well-known exorcist insisting Francis helped “liberate” a Mexican man possessed by four different demons despite the Vatican’s insistence that no such papal exorcism took place.<br />
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The case concerns a 43-year-old husband and father who traveled to Rome from Mexico to attend Francis’ Mass on Sunday in St. Peter’s Square. At the end of the Mass, Francis blessed several wheelchair-bound faithful as he always does, including a man possessed by the devil, according to the priest who brought him, the Rev. Juan Rivas.<br />
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Francis laid his hands on the man’s head and recited a prayer. The man heaved deeply a half-dozen times, shook, then slumped in his wheelchair.<br />
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The images, broadcast worldwide, prompted the television station of the Italian bishops’ conference to declare that according to several exorcists, there was “no doubt” that Francis either performed an exorcism or a simpler prayer to free the man from the devil.<br />
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The Vatican was more cautious. In a statement Tuesday, it said Francis “didn’t intend to perform any exorcism. But as he often does for the sick or suffering, he simply intended to pray for someone who was suffering who was presented to him.”<br />
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The Rev. Gabriele Amorth, a leading exorcist for the diocese of Rome, said he performed a lengthy exorcism of his own on the man Tuesday morning and ascertained he was possessed by four separate demons. The case was related to the legalization of abortion in Mexico City, he said.<br />
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Amorth told RAI state radio that even a short prayer, without the full rite of exorcism being performed, is in itself a type of exorcism.<br />
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 “That was a true exorcism,” he said of Francis’ prayer. “Exorcisms aren’t just done according to the rules of the ritual.”<br />
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Rivas took the Vatican line, saying it was no exorcism but that Francis merely said a prayer to free the man from the devil.<br />
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 “Since no one heard what he said, including me who was right there, you can say he did a prayer for liberation but nothing more,” Rivas wrote on his Facebook page, which was confirmed by his religious order, the Legionaries of Christ.<br />
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Fueling the speculation that Francis did indeed perform an exorcism is his frequent reference to Satan in his homilies — as well as an apparent surge in demand for exorcisms among the faithful despite the irreverent treatment the rite often receives from Hollywood.<br />
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Who can forget the green vomit and the spinning head of the possessed girl in the 1973 cult classic “The Exorcist”?<br />
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In his very first homily as pope on March 14, Francis warned cardinals gathered in the Sistine Chapel the day after he was elected that “he who doesn’t pray to the Lord prays to the devil.”<br />
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He has since mentioned the devil on a handful of occasions, most recently in a May 4 homily when in his morning Mass in the Vatican hotel chapel he spoke of the need for dialogue — except with Satan.<br />
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 “With the prince of this world you can’t have dialogue: Let this be clear!” he warned.<br />
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Experts said Francis’ frequent invocation of the devil is a reflection both of his Jesuit spirituality and his Latin American roots, as well as a reflection of a Catholic Church weakened by secularization.<br />
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 “The devil’s influence and presence in the world seems to fluctuate in quantity inversely proportionate to the presence of Christian faith,” said the Rev. Robert Gahl, a moral theologian at Rome’s Pontifical Holy Cross University. “So, one would expect an upswing in his malicious activity in the wake of de-Christianization and secularization” in the world and a surge in things like drug use, pornography and superstition.<br />
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In recent years, Rome’s pontifical universities have hosted several courses for would-be exorcists on the rite, updated in 1998 and contained in a little red leather-bound booklet. The rite is relatively brief, consisting of blessings with holy water, prayers and an interrogation of the devil in which the exorcist demands to know the devil’s name, how many are present and when they will leave the victim.<br />
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Only a priest authorized by a bishop can perform an exorcism, and canon law specifies that the exorcist must be “endowed with piety, knowledge, prudence and integrity of life.”<br />
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While belief in the devil is consistent with church teaching, the Holy See does urge prudence, particularly to ensure that the victim isn’t merely psychologically ill.<br />
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The Rev. Giulio Maspero, a Rome-based systematic theologian who has witnessed or participated in more than a dozen exorcisms, says he’s fairly certain that Francis’ prayer on Sunday was either a full-fledged exorcism or a more simple prayer to “liberate” the young man from demonic possession.<br />
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He noted that the placement of the pope’s hands on the man’s head was the “typical position” for an exorcist to use.<br />
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 “When you witness something like that — for me it was shocking — I could feel the power of prayer,” he said in a phone interview, speaking of his own previous experiences.<br />
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The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, sought to temper speculation that what occurred was a full-fledged exorcism. While he didn’t deny it outright — he said Francis hadn’t “intended” to perform one — he stressed that the intention of the person praying is quite important.<br />
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Late Tuesday, the director of TV2000, the television of the Italian bishops’ conference, went on the air to apologize for the earlier report.<br />
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 “I don’t want to attribute to him a gesture that he didn’t intend to perform,” said the director, Dino Boffo.<br />
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That said, Francis’ actions and attitude toward the devil are not new: As archbishop of Buenos Aires, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio frequently spoke about the devil in our midst.<br />
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In the book “Heaven and Earth,” Bergoglio devoted the second chapter to “The Devil” and said in no uncertain terms that he believes in the devil and that Satan’s fruits are “destruction, division, hatred and calumny.”<br />
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 “Perhaps its greatest success in these times has been to make us think that it doesn’t exist, that everything can be traced to a purely human plan,” he wrote.<br />
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Italian newspapers noted that the late Pope John Paul II performed an exorcism in 1982 — near the same spot where Francis prayed over the young disabled man Sunday.
			
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All too often, the Church's exorcists have been treated like the Church's unwanted red-headed stepchildren.<br />
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But anyone who scoffs at exorcism must face the fact that Christ himself expelled demons on many occasions.<br />
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I believe in exorcism and that is why I have always refused to see the movie &quot;The Exorcist.&quot;  Exorcism is not something to mess around with, not something to turn into entertainment.<br />
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I am glad to see this Pope is getting back to basics and identifying the enemy for who he is.</div>

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			<title>Why own a firearm?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:28:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>If there is an Omnipotent and Omnibelevolent deity: 
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2.  Who answers your prayers<br />
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Why own a firearm?  If God looks out for you and you trust His Plan, why would a gun be necessary?<br />
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The ownership of a firearm is almost a statement along the lines of &quot;there is no one to take care of me except for myself&quot;.  I realize I am the only person who can take care of myself, hence by acquisition of the means of self-preservation.  If I believed that there was a theistic deity that loved me and had a plan for me, I do not believe I would see the use for a firearm.  What use would it be?  I would never use it as there would be no possibility of any situation arising why I might need to deploy it.  The ownership of weapons for self-defense is an act of lack of faith. <br />
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Yet, one of the biggest things I have in common with many questions:  We own firearms. <br />
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The biggest difference, I do not believe in a theistic deity that interactions with the universe.</div>

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			<title>Jesus-Is-Savior.com</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 05:23:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ 
 
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I thought I'd present to you guys this website. In all my years of surfing the Internet, I've never seen anything nuttier than this site. Whether its womens rights, gays and lesbians, transsexuals, atheists, rock music, women preachers, etc, this guy has something negative to say about it.<br />
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Even Christian Rock isn't safe from his criticism: <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/religious_rock.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils...gious_rock.htm</a><br />
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His thoughts on female preachers: <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Feminism/women_preachers.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils..._preachers.htm</a><br />
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Gay bashing: <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homosexuality_is_a_sin.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils...y_is_a_sin.htm</a><br />
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And if you don't believe in God, he's got one for you: <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/SS/atheism.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...SS/atheism.htm</a><br />
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There's many more on his site, but I can't list them all. If you roam around a bit, though, his conspiracy articles are the funniest and most amusing.<br />
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Just thought I'd give you guys something to laugh at and to show you another nutter who calls himself a &quot;Christian.&quot;</div>

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			<title>Was Mark Twain an atheist?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 03:06:43 GMT</pubDate>
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Mark Twain was an atheist American writer whose sixty books included The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. In his last book, Letters from the Earth, Twain wrote:<br />
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‘You have noticed that the human being is a curiosity. In times past he has had (and worn out and flung away) hundreds and hundreds of religions; today he has hundreds and hundreds of religions, and launches not fewer than three new ones every year… One of his principle religions is called the Christian. A sketch of it will interest you. It sets forth in detail in a book containing two million words, called the Old and New Testaments. Also it has another name – The Word of God. For the Christian thinks every word of it was dictated by God. It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.’
			
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I am currently reading Mark Twain's classic &quot;A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.&quot;<br />
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In this book, Twain employs satire to attack the Christian faith in general, and the Roman Catholic Church in particular.<br />
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First, he blames the Roman Catholic Church for the condition of commoners, who were poor and oppressed.<br />
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Second, he blames the Roman Catholic Church for the ignorance of the people.<br />
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In one chapter, he has his hero look down a well to see that it is cracked.<br />
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None of the fifth century people thought to do that, because they think its a miraculous well, and that only prayer will fix the problem.<br />
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Anyway, Mark Twain does an excellent job of creating a strawman and then knocking it down.<br />
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But I think its a pretty safe bet that fifth century people knew how to dig wells, and knew how to maintain them, and would not all die of thirst without the intervention of a &quot;modern man of science.&quot;<br />
<br />
Mark Twain takes his satire too far, creates a fantasy fifth century man that is totally incompetent in science, and then uses that fantasy to  make an argument against religion.<br />
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And that is just pure dishonesty, and is contemptible for that reason.</div>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 10:03:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[...in America based on the Sharia. I honestly believe that most liberals and liberal 'atheists' would go along with out of fear of seeming 'racist'...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>...in America based on the Sharia. I honestly believe that most liberals and liberal 'atheists' would go along with out of fear of seeming 'racist' or offending Muslims. <br />
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Sure it might mean homosexuality, fornication, alcohol, transgenderism, atheism, etc would be outlawed, maybe even punishable by death. It might mean women'd be forced to wear a burka on threat of rape or beatings, denied the right to vote, drive a car, leave the home, or even seek medical care without her husbands' permission - basically have no purpose other to be breeding stock in a marriage sanctioned by God...<br />
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...but I still think liberals and left wing 'atheists' would just go along with it and relinquish their rights, out of fear of being branded a bigot or a racist. <br />
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Hell if it came down to it, I bet the average liberal mom or dad would hand over their 9 year old daughter in an arranged marriage to a Saudi man, if they felt the Saudi'd be offended, or believe they only  if they rejected his propsal because he was a Muslim.</div>

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			<title>Insurance for Atheists.</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 00:18:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I would like to inquire how many Atheists on this forum purchase insurance policies when they know that the policy has an "act of God" clause...]]></description>
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			<title>Should Obama Ship Muslim Americans Off to Internment Camps?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 00:00:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>After all, his leftist/progressive predecessor FDR did just that during WWII with hundreds of thousands of Japanese and Italian Americans.</description>
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			<title>God Exists...</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 13:23:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Thanks to word of mouth. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Thanks to word of mouth.<br />
You only believe in God because your parents taught it to you after learning it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents..... all the way back to some guy in the desert who realized he could use stories about magical beings to get people to do what he wanted.<br />
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Discuss.</div>

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			<title>What do you think of Televangelism?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 07:54:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Do you think it has helped or caused damage to the integrity of religion and politics today? 
 
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			The 1960s and early 1970s saw television replace radio as the primary home entertainment medium, but also corresponded with a further rise in evangelical Protestant Christianity, particularly through the international television and radio ministry of Billy Graham. Many well-known televangelists began during this period, most notably Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, Jerry Fallwell, and Pat Robertson. Most developed their own media networks, news exposure, and political influence.<br />
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    Several televangelists are very active in the national or international political arena (e.g., Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, John Hagee), and often espouse conservative politics on their programs. Such televangelists may occasionally arouse controversy by making remarks deemed offensive on their programs or elsewhere, or by endorsing partisan political candidates on donor-paid airtime, at which point some have been threatened that they may have their tax-exempt status taken away if they reside in the United States.<br />
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Televangelists often strongly dispute these criticisms and say they are doing God's work. They cite declining attendance at traditional church services and the growth of global mass media as factors necessitating the use of television to 'fulfill the &quot;Great Commission&quot; of the Gospel of Jesus to the generation of the 21st Century.
			
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 10:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
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&quot;&quot;I would like a Church that is poor and is for the poor,&quot; he said following his election as head of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics two months ago.&quot;<br />
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interesting push by the pope, wonder what his followers think, what say you? I think it's a good move by the church</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[What's the Christian argument against rock music?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 04:38:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[We've all heard of those loony Christians who rail on about rock music being evil, but aside from the obvious satanic image in many bands, what...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>We've all heard of those loony Christians who rail on about rock music being evil, but aside from the obvious satanic image in many bands, what convincing argument do they have against rock music? Some of them don't even like Christian rock.<br />
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Is it because rock music is exciting and of the world compared to hymns, which are slow and boring, kind of like worship?<br />
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Tell me what the argument against rock music is.</div>

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			<title>I feel like going to a remote mountain top to fast and pray for the world</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:42:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have always thought there was evil in our world, but recent developments have made me realize that the world is a lot more evil than even I suspected.<br />
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And I feel like getting away from it all, going to a mountaintop, to fast and pray for God to have mercy on this world.<br />
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But even if I really wanted to do that, I have a family to provide for, so this type of escape is impossible.<br />
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But my sense of despair is nearly overwhelming.<br />
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I have lost my faith in humanity, and I want to be alone, away from the corruption of my fellow man.<br />
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If I can purify myself, through fasting and praying, maybe God will have mercy on those who need it most.</div>

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