Limit # of Posts

[97240sx]

There are a few people here that do nothing but spew false statements and rhetoric with no facts to back up anything they say. I'll even name names. Sadistic Savior and Duh2 are good debaters, but seem lacking in critical thinking abilities, general knowledge, conventional wisdom, and common sense. I would even suspect some members are on some political payroll and are paid to make as many comments as they can.

I move to limit the number of posts each person can make (ex: xx posts per day or per week) so that the voice of this minority of the population does not seem louder or more powerful just because of their post count. A limit would force people to actually think before posting. If, for example, you are only allowed 3 posts per day, then you had better choose your words wisely and with a bit more conviction and precision. I believe that this would dramatically increase the quality of posts, and may attract more intelligent people to the forum, who may actually have something important to say. The trade off is that there is a certain risk of overall post count declining, which could possibly drive some people away. However, those who may choose to leave the board might be those who are only motivated by overall post count anyway, and possibly even have other hidden agendas (ex: spreading lies).

If people are allowed to post B.S. in every single thread, then there is not an accurate representation of the consensus of the general population. It seems that some of those people with the most outlandish view points have some of the highest post counts.

Just my honest and open thoughts. I hope I have provided a little bit of insight for those interested. Personally, if I see blatent lies and lack of intelligence in almost every single thread, then I feel like I am talking to a rock (possibly a rock bent on world domination , but a rock none the less) ... and what is the point in talking to a rock?

Cheers ladies and gentlemen.
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[The12thMan]

I can't believe you chose Duh and SS as examples. Both of them have a healthy understanding of the difference between fact and opinion. The idea that someone can be a good debater, yet lack critical thinking abilities, general knowledge, conventional wisdom, and common sense is really quite absurd.

I can think of better examples from all sides of the political spectrum. I certainly have felt like I was talking to a rock. But those are times when I post proof from a reputable source and it is ignored. At that point, I have to take satisfaction knowing that others will be reading the thread.

Limiting post counts as you advocate would stifle conversation. Some topics evolve just as if we were gathered in someone's living room. Someone will chime in after a few pages with a new take on the subject. They wouldn't bother when they couldn't expect replies and the topic would die before it's time.

BTW, we're not here to try to represent the consensus of the general population. By definition, we're very much different than the general population because we are generally better informed and most definitely more interested in politics than the average guy.

[97240sx]

-Good point you make about topics evolving. I wouldn't advocate a strict post limit though, just one that would make users seriously think about not wasting one of their valued posts; similar to how congress gets time limits whenever they wish to speak. I mean they won't let you filibuster for months anymore will they?

-Also, I haven't been around long enough to see these better examples you speak of.

-I will have to disagree with your last statement about how "we" are better informed. The fact remains that anyone can get on here and post pretty much anything they want, no matter how absurd, as many times as they want, in as many threads as they want...

-A solid, valid opinion has to based on something, not just pulled out of someones sphincter (pardon language). If someone tells me that they want to take over the world forcibly, and change their form of government (and possibly kill A LOT of people in the process), and that the only reason for it is because "I'm better than then they are" (basically that is having an opinion on another opinion), then that is not an opinion based on anything that even remotely demonstrates any level of critical thinking ability, knowledge, intelligence, or common sense.

-Now I don't have a problem with someone revealing that opinion once or twice, of course that is the person's right to do so; but why spam this nonsense in every single thread in every other post?

[Joker]

Originally Posted by 97240sx";p=&quot

There are a few people here that do nothing but spew false statements and rhetoric with no facts to back up anything they say.

Why should all forum members be punished for a problem that arises, as you put it, from a few people here?

The best solution is always the simplest, which in this case would be just ignoring members that you thik are stupid.

[justabubba]

Originally Posted by Joker";p=&quot

Why should all forum members be punished for a problem that arises, as you put it, from a few people here?

The best solution is always the simplest, which in this case would be just ignoring members that you thik are stupid.

but i agree with joker, even tho his spelling and grammar could use some polishing

[The12thMan]

Originally Posted by 97240sx";p=&quot

-I will have to disagree with your last statement about how "we" are better informed. The fact remains that anyone can get on here and post pretty much anything they want, no matter how absurd, as many times as they want, in as many threads as they want...

Yeah, but no one is staying around here for 3+ years unless they're interested in politics.

-A solid, valid opinion has to based on something, not just pulled out of someones sphincter (pardon language). If someone tells me that they want to take over the world forcibly, and change their form of government (and possibly kill A LOT of people in the process), and that the only reason for it is because "I'm better than then they are" (basically that is having an opinion on another opinion), then that is not an opinion based on anything that even remotely demonstrates any level of critical thinking ability, knowledge, intelligence, or common sense.

I believe you have just misstated Sadistic's position. I don't like to speak for him, but I believe his reasoning is simply that FREEDOM is better than anything else and not something to be compromised. He has no respect for non-democracies. It's simply a matter of right vs. wrong.

-Now I don't have a problem with someone revealing that opinion once or twice, of course that is the person's right to do so; but why spam this nonsense in every single thread in every other post?

It seems obvious that what you are calling spam are actually attempts to clarify his position. Apparently he has more work to do.

[newbegginnings]

Interesting post, but ultimately if you limit the amount of posts people can make you won't have a site, thats why the mods will never agree with you mate.

[DuH2]

The percentage of posts I make with link(s) to factual information (that is often ignored by those who never offer such) substantiating the basis of my opinions is probably higher then anyone else here.

Not tooting my horn or saying that I demand you link!.... but this seems like just another of those I don't like what they says..so I'll complain about it threads.

Heres one of my posts/threads you called Spam... http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=36109

What?



Whatever....

Hell I don't like half the Far Lefties here and the other half only as far as I can throw them off a cliff....but I don't say limit them to 1 post because their opinions suck in my opinion or because 9 out of 10 times they offer nothing at all but thier opinion usually in the manner of "Bushie sucks and is a liar!"


Seems your beef is mainly with S-S though..

[97240sx]

All good points. I won't be a zealot about this. Just a little bit of random brainstorming.

[Blade]

I think the suppression of freedom of speech is bad, but there are a few posters here who post almost nothing of substance, and usually post one-liners. It would be nice imo, if the mods would PM the Oneliner Brigade and tell them to attempt posts of substance.