Profanity

[SpankyTheWhale]

Originally Posted by BigRed

When I first entered the thread, I was thinking the basis of generally speaking.

On forums, it is up to whomever dictates the rules. We agree to them and I fine with that.

Well, generally speaking I don't think I am involved in your real life, so if you want to use profanity outside of this forum, I'm not going to stop you.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by Rino

No sir, it is called refraining. Your rights are intact. As are mine.

So let me get this straight. Me not being able to say what I want (not to mention what I am saying is perfectly okay in a free society), while you get the pleasure of not hearing what I may or may not say. That seems like you are appeasing one sect of people while silencing another.

Originally Posted by Rino

We are always in the right in our own minds.

Unless of course I am proven wrong which is a great thing because it helps you to learn.

Originally Posted by Rino

Actually, my rights are infringed on because if I want to be there I have to listen to your filth.

Need over want.

Originally Posted by Rino

Are you unable to express yourself in any other way? You would still be allowed to express yourself without infringing on others.

So I have to alter my expressions to appease you? Kind of stretches into political correctness and I can't stand political correctness. The more offended, the better.

Originally Posted by Rino

And you are appeasing to one sect of people while hurting another.

Please explain that to me.

Originally Posted by Rino

I am sorry, but that does not seem very libertarian to me.

What is the libertarian answer then? Refraining doesn't seem applicable to me. Allowing both sides the freedom of choice does though.

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale

My point is that people tend to use profanity more as a way to inject their passions into the debate than as a way to actually explore or elucidate the issues that are being discussed. That passion is appreciated and can be useful, but it can more easily detract from the substance of the debate than reveal truth.

Profanity is useful in that it more easily tells the other people in the debate where you stand on the issues, but it does not further the cause of trying to find the best way to solve those issues.

Oh, in that sense (debating), I agree completely.

If you resort to profanity, it typically means you can't articulate your points otherwise.

[B L Zeebub]

What about if you can be profane in more than 4 languages.

Jebem ti seljacku mater u stopala kojima gupus gazi ?

Yedi govna maymune

gay k'ken in yam

[SpankyTheWhale]

Originally Posted by BigRed

So let me get this straight. Me not being able to say what I want (not to mention what I am saying is perfectly okay in a free society), while you get the pleasure of not hearing what I may or may not say. That seems like you are appeasing one sect of people while silencing another.

That is obvious. ANY opinion appeases one "sect of people" while silencing (or attempting to marginalize) another. One opinion of profanity appeases your desire to vocally emote, while the other appeases someone else's desire to not be verbally attacked. One silences an aspect of your oral expression, while the other marginalizes the other person's feelings and sense of emotional security.

Originally Posted by BigRed

Need over want.

You NEED to use profanity?

Originally Posted by BigRed

So I have to alter my expressions to appease you? Kind of stretches into political correctness and I can't stand political correctness. The more offended, the better.

You might think that offending people equates to your conveyance of your points, but that only applies to your opinions on the issues and not to emotional outcrys. I might be offended that (ONLY FOR EXAMPLE, ONLY FOR EXAMPLE) you desire the destruction of Israel, but that is a complete belief system. One word (or a string of "one words") does not equal a belief system.

Originally Posted by BigRed

What is the libertarian answer then? Refraining doesn't seem applicable to me. Allowing both sides the freedom of choice does though.

A libertarian cares about who was there first. If more polite people were already in a room, and you came in and started cursing, you are in the wrong. The polite people get the rights. However, if your more profane people were already in a room, and somebody else came in and started berating you for using such word choice, then that more sensitive person is in the wrong. You get the rights.

[Rino]

Originally Posted by SpankyTheWhale

A libertarian cares about who was there first. If more polite people were already in a room, and you came in and started cursing, you are in the wrong. The polite people get the rights. However, if your more profane people were already in a room, and somebody else came in and started berating you for using such word choice, then that more sensitive person is in the wrong. You get the rights.

Bingo. Totally right. Same goes for smoking or what not. Someone else actually gets it. Congratulations.

[BillyBob]

I can't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing believe this piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) thread is still active.

[submarinepainter]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

What about if you can be profane in more than 4 languages.

Jebem ti seljacku mater u stopala kojima gupus gazi ?

Yedi govna maymune

gay k'ken in yam

I (*)(*)(*)(*) your Redneck mother in the feet she uses to sour cabbage ?

[SpankyTheWhale]

Originally Posted by BillyBob

I can't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing believe this piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) thread is still active.

Yeah! I can't ateriskinparenthesesing believe it either! Isn't it asteriskinparenthesesing AWESOME!!!?

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by submarinepainter

I (*)(*)(*)(*) your Redneck mother in the feet she uses to sour cabbage ?

makes me laugh, what about the other two?