Is that you make the mistake of thinking you understand what conservatives believe. Based on some arrogant idea that they are stupid, mindless humans who do not think for themselves, are told what to think and are paranoid/led around by fear, you think they are such simple creatures. Until you look at things objectively with an open mind(now where have I heard that before), you only sound foolish in your analysis of the conservative psyche.

I will grant that there are some extremist thought(on both sides of the spectrum), but the when you talk about conservatives, you are talking about the average Joe public, not the far right extremists. Just as I don't believe that all liberals hold kinship with the far left extremest forms of thought. Conservatives are not Nazi's & liberals are not Anarchists.

The mistake you make again, is that you state opinion as fact and therefore form an opinion on that basis, which 99% of the time has no basis in fact. For instance, you might state that people are intellectually inferior to you because they voted to elect and/or re-elect Bush, and you believe that it would impossible to vote for him because you think he is a criminal/stupid/war crime/liar................. I can tell you that if I believed that, not only would I not have voted to re-elect him, but I would have lead the charge to impeach him, prosecute him and put him away for a very long time. I don't believe he is those things, not because I am told to think that, but because by my own investigation into it, there is no evidence to support anything other than he is trying to protect his country. To me that is the first priority of the president of the US.

We can sit here and argue(like we continue to do) about Iraq/Bush/War on terror/blah, blah, blah. But the reality is that most of the basis for bashing Bush, is not factual, it is opinion/conjecture/speculation. Yet the justification for the relentless attacks on him is that he has done these horrendous/unthinkable/illegal/lying/cheating/mysterious things that no one can show any tangible proof of. While to me it is takes common sense and no stretch of the imagination to believe otherwise.

The debate will go on forever and never get anywhere, but to give yourself some sign of credibility, think a little objectively before you degrade people and their opinions. And before the thought police pipe in about how I am telling people they can't have an opinion, or that they can't a have contradictory opinion about anything that I state, stop. I am not saying that. All I am saying is that I put very little weight into peoples opinions, when they are not backed up by any tangible evidence(let alone proof) that what you are saying has any basis in fact. And don't underestimate peoples intelligence. It might get you killed someday.

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Scientific huh?from where,Bob Jones University?lol.Most scientist's have already concluded homosexuality is as biological as heterosexuality!As for religion,God created gay's for population control!Deal with it!

...was your contribution scientific?

Which `laws` are you refering to? What research do you allude to? What science are you basing your conclusions on?

It seems to me that your argument can be surmised as:

1. Women don`t have a thang

2. Therefore homosexuality is a choice

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I am a homosexual and have been all my life. Lord knows, when I was younger I TRIED to be straight...it just didn't work.

If sexuality is a choice, then I ask the heterosexuals when they made the decision to be straight?

Why on earth would anyone CHOOSE to be a homosexual when being a heterosexual is so much easier? Heterosexuals don't have to worry about being evicted from their homes because of their sexuality, they don't have to worry about losing their jobs because of their sexuality and they don't have to worry about having rights taken away from them that homosexuals have to worry about...because of their sexuality.

Of course there are deviant homosexuals, just as there are deviant heterosexuals. If anyone cares to do some research they would find that most children molested by male adults are married heterosexuals with families of their own.

I don't understand the fear and disdain that heterosexuals have for homosexuals unless they don't feel secure in their sexuality themselves. Homosexuals don't RECRUIT straights and even if they did...how can anyone force someone else to be gay if they don't have gay tendencies in their own lives? There is also bi-sexuality, which I believe is the reason for so much fear the straights have. They don't understand how they can be in a committed relationship with the opposite sex, and satisfied sexually but still feel an attraction to a member of their own sex.

IMO, males are quite different than females as most males are driven by a mostly animalistic sexual desire. Most males will screw anything that wiggles and will resort to any measures to feel sexual pleasure, no matter who's on the other end. Females are more emotionally sexually charged. Even straight guys know this. Ask any straight guy how many times he can have sex with his partner without some emotional murmmerings and foreplay.

This is also why males who are incarcerated even if they have straight relationships outside will succomb to sexual satisfaction from another man. Is it homosexual? Not necessarily..it is just a sexual satisfaction...driven by sexual instinct.

How do I know this? I'm a retired psychiatrist...and have seen it all. JK

Short and Sweet. Being homesexual is not a choice. No body wakes up on thier 15th birthday and decides to be a homosexual. The practice of one's sexuality is a choice. You may be gay or straight and choose not to act upon your urges.

Short and Sweet. Being homesexual is not a choice. No body wakes up on thier 15th birthday and decides to be a homosexual. The practice of one's sexuality is a choice. You may be gay or straight and choose not to act upon your urges.

Short and Sweet. Being homesexual is not a choice. No body wakes up on thier 15th birthday and decides to be a homosexual. The practice of one's sexuality is a choice. You may be gay or straight and choose not to act upon your urges.

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Whilst I agree with what you are saying, it should be noted that it's not only the christian right that's making it hard for gay people (and those that are, are making it very hard). The moslem faith (though not all of its follwers) is not exactly welcoming of gay relationships either and I also know of many non-religious people who have a big thing against gays.

It is though, largely, the christian-right (and not all christians are the christian-right) in the US that is most affronted by the notion of gay people receiving equal rights. Most of the rest of the western world finds this as fascinating as alchemy :-/ and I imagine that some truly caring christian followers are beginning to realize that this is just a "wedge" issue, someting that neo-conservative manipulators are using in order to get their votes and not a campaign in which they, themselves, truly believe. Who cares if two adults want to become legal next-of-kin? I know I don't.[/quote]