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So you are saying that any opinion that you do not agree with is bigoted. Isn't that awful narrow-minded? I did not say ANYTHING that was bigoted. Just expressing I want to protect children.
So you are saying that any opinion that you do not agree with is bigoted. Isn't that awful narrow-minded? I did not say ANYTHING that was bigoted. Just expressing I want to protect children.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
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So, I'll say that it's apparent that you are a Christian. And that's good and fine. I see nothing wrong with you believing that homosexuality is a sin. Those are your beliefs, that's cool. But do you have to be so nasty about it? I know you're just trying to get what you believe to be the truth out there, but when the way you're going about it won't make anyone want to be a Christian. I mean, I don't think this is how Jesus treated people in his day, and isn't the point to try and follow his example?
I've met many wonderful Christians that believe homosexuality is a sin, but that were always very civil about it, and I learned a lot from them and they have really shown Christianity in a newer light for myself.
Guru
No, I'm implying that any person who thinks others must give-in to their beliefs, is wrong. People are going to have different opinions. Just because I see the world in a different way, doesn't mean that others MUST see it my way.
I would not seek to discriminate against "heterosexual" people, just because they ARE heterosexual. I wouldn't say hateful and dehumanizing things against "heterosexuality", just because I'm not heterosexual. I know people are different and I accept that.
People often disagree, and that isn't necessarily "bigotry".Isn't that awful narrow-minded?
You comment was indeed bigoted; the meaning of what you said. We disagree on that, for certain.I did not say ANYTHING that was bigoted. Just expressing I want to protect children.
Guru
What about the 'character' of Christ?
Amen to that!
How much was Jesus like the commentary that many express here within this forum?
Jesus could have eliminated every gay person of his day (and you can bet they were there); but he didn't even mention them specifically. One can only wonder why... if He knew the future, and the hatred for gays supported by His Word... why didn't Jesus address homosexuality in the way that many fundamentalists Christians adamantly (even hatefully) do today?
You see, the character of Jesus is the ONE biblical thing that inspires me. The hatred of many Christians for homosexual people, drove me away from many Christians and Church-ianity. I haven't said much about that, because it can go FAR off-topic in a millisecond.
If I met Jesus face-to-face, I think He might tell me things I don't want to hear per se... but without a doubt, I'm certain I'd recognize that He loved me. With "Christians" and how they express themselves about "homosexuality"... it is typically as if "love" doesn't come into the picture. From that alone, I KNOW that something is wrong, with what they're bringing to the table.
I wasn't nasty unless you consider the truth to be offensive, and children not worthy of protection from perversion.
The medical consequences of what homosexuals do is not only shortening their lifespan and running up medical costs, but the transmission of STDs, HIV/AIDS/ Hepatitis A&B, etc. to the unsuspecting spouse and children is appalling and should be criminal.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin."
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
[quote]So anyone who disagrees with you is WRONG?
Would you be truthful, even if the truth was not politically correct?I would not seek to discriminate against "heterosexual" people, just because they ARE heterosexual. I wouldn't say hateful and dehumanizing things against "heterosexuality", just because I'm not heterosexual. I know people are different and I accept that.
How was my comment bigoted in your opinion?You comment was indeed bigoted; the meaning of what you said. We disagree on that, for certain.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
Jesus would tell you the same thing He told the Samaritan woman at the well (John 4:4-26)
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels
Guru
What is it?
[quote=NaturalBorn;4038357]It's as if you want gay people shut out of humanity. That's what I'm sensing.So anyone who disagrees with you is WRONG?
Would you be truthful, even if the truth was not politically correct?
How was my comment bigoted in your opinion?
So, what do you want from/of gay people?
Guru
What would Jesus tell you? I can find the quotes to suggest... but I want you to search your own heart.
Last edited by Johnny-C; Jun 14 2011 at 09:30 AM.
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Except this would only apply to gay men, not all homosexuals. And most gay men don't have an STD, you're only speaking of a minority. Certainly a larger minority than what the straight community has, but a minority none the less. These STD rates are not something that is swept under the rug in the gay community, it's is very much discussed and acknowledged and there are many gay organizations trying to educate and raise awareness amongst gay men about these high rates. And again, we are only talking about gay men here. I'd imagine the STD rates among gay women is lower than that of the straight community.
HIV rates and crime rates are higher in the black community than in the white community, do you believe that that means there is something inherently wrong with being black?
As a Christian, are you against kids being taught about other religions in school? I imagine that would be just as harmful as teaching kids about homosexuality.
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