What Don't You Like About The Gay Community?

**NaturalBorn** · Jun 14 2011, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by 808state

This is a Paul Cameron study. This study has already proven to be false. The American Psychological Association, Nebraska Psychological Association, American Sociological Association, and the Canadian Psychological Association have all stated that he is not to be trusted as a reliable source and that he repeatedly has misrepresented information in his studies. Do you have any other sources?

Also, I have no doubt that gays face more problems, but as I stated before, this is not something that is inherent in homosexuality but is mostly caused by the societal pressures that gays face. Just like any other group that might face more problems in a particular area than others would.

Facts and the actuarial tables are what they are. You may disbelieve the facts at your own peril.

**Unifier** · Jun 14 2011, 04:55 PM

I'm sorry, but I don't think a condition that no one fully understands should be forced on society as something to be embraced, accepted, and normalized without question. I think there is entirely too much emphasis placed on forced acceptance of homosexuality in our society and very little effort made to truly understand it. But to be fair, homosexuality isn't the only thing that receives this kind of treatment. The activist crowd does this very same thing with a variety of other issues.

It's all emotion-driven. There is a segment of the population that has this overwhelming emotional need to accept everything. It comes from a well-meaning place, but it totally subverts their ability to think logically.

**CKW** · Jun 14 2011, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by 808state

I figure we can step away from the topics of gays and marriage, the military, and public schools for a moment, and talk about what issues people have with the gay/lesbian community itself. This thread is not just a thread for conservatives to spill their dislikes in, but for others as well. As a gay person, I definitely take issue with certain things I see in the gay community.

Personally, I see a lot of racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. in the community. No more than with straight people, but still for a community that preaches "human equality", you'd think they walk the walk more often. Not that all gay people think are racist, homophobic, or transphobic, my criticisms of the gay/lesbian community are ones that many other gay people have as well...so, there's hope I suppose.

So, yeah, I'm sure many of the criticisms are going to be quite different than mine, but I'm curious to see what other people's perceptions are.

ps. I am in no way implying that the "gay community" is a monolithic group that can be summed up with generalizations, again, I'm just curious to see what perceptions of others are.

I don't live in a gay community. I know and live by gay people who live in a conservative community.. So my assumptions are based on what I see from afar.

I think a gay community...as a societal whole is anti children. I say this because in the San Francisco paper I read a column written by an ex-prostitute (a regular columist apparently) who gave hints and encouragement on how to discreetly have sex in the city parks and public areas. Apparently parks and public places are designated for adults only. And apparently parents need to keep the city newspaper away from little hands.

An anti-family, anti-kid community will have fairs and festivals celebrating machocistic behavior, chains and thongs, whips and the like. You aren't going to find those fairs and festivals in a community that celebrates family.

**Makedde** · Jun 14 2011, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by iJoeTime

I would venture there is a higher rate of child molestation by priests then by the gay community.

I would imagine that is likely.

**808state** · Jun 14 2011, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by NaturalBorn

Facts and the actuarial tables are what they are. You may disbelieve the facts at your own peril.

Except the study has already been discredited. I'd imagine, if these were facts that you would have no trouble finding other studies with similar conclusions from unbiased sources. Though I have had no such luck.

**808state** · Jun 14 2011, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by CKW

I don't live in a gay community. I know and live by gay people who live in a conservative community.. So my assumptions are based on what I see from afar.

I think a gay community...as a societal whole is anti children. I say this because in the San Francisco paper I read a column written by an ex-prostitute (a regular columist apparently) who gave hints and encouragement on how to discreetly have sex in the city parks and public areas. Apparently parks and public places are designated for adults only. And apparently parents need to keep the city newspaper away from little hands.

An anti-family, anti-kid community will have fairs and festivals celebrating machocistic behavior, chains and thongs, whips and the like. You aren't going to find those fairs and festivals in a community that celebrates family.

Yeah, I'll say that these people definitely do not make up the majority of gay people. I think the problem is when people see pictures of a gay pride parades, they only see those marching in the parade, and those people are always going to be the most flamboyant/outrageous ones. If you want to have a better sense of the gay community, just look at the people the crowds. I definitely would not say the gay community is anti-family.

**CKW** · Jun 14 2011, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by 808state

Yeah, I'll say that these people definitely do not make up the majority of gay people. I think the problem is when people see pictures of a gay pride parades, they only see those marching in the parade, and those people are always going to be the most flamboyant/outrageous ones. If you want to have a better sense of the gay community, just look at the people the crowds. I definitely would not say the gay community is anti-family.

The people in the crowd tolerate it, encourage it and go to it. They spend money at the ...really preverted fairs put on at the gay community.

Their is no outrage over a column with tips on sex in the park. Its fine.

**808state** · Jun 14 2011, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by CKW

The people in the crowd tolerate it, encourage it and go to it. They spend money at the ...really preverted fairs put on at the gay community.

Their is no outrage over a column with tips on sex in the park. Its fine.

No, there has been much debate in the gay community over the "family-friendlieness" of gay pride. It differs from city to city, mind you. Some are more family-friendly than others. But yeah, gay prides are slowly becoming more family-friendly as more gay people are starting families now than in previous decades.

As far as there not being outrage over tips about sex in the park, that's silly. People aren't going to get outraged over every little thing, especially a small column. They either agree with it or they don't and move on. Sex columns exist all over the place, and have given just as risk-ay advice to straight people with no outrage from the straight community. This is not uncommon. A sex column, straight or gay, is not going to be the beacon of Christian morality.