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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    When one group of people is licensed and regulated that means that group of people has special rights. So you stated heterosexuals or opposite sex unions have special rights not awarded to homosexual or same sex unions - this is discrimination
    If you add another group to the first group that second group will also have special rights. This would then be concidered to be equal rights at that point, if group 1 has rights that group 2 does not have, once group 2 is added they become equal rights for both group 1 and 2
    If you grant special rights to certain group for no reason, then why ALL group should not have those rights.
    Congratulations, you just made the case for same sex unions! Progress!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daggdag View Post
    I have said countless times that I would agree with this viewpoint if people who promote it agree that Any hetrosexual couples who do not want, or are unable to have children are barred from amrriage on the sames grounds as gays
    ^^ This would also be a viable option as it would remove the current discriminatory practice of awarding benefits to someone just because of their inclusion in a certain group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd8ed View Post
    Congratulations, you just made the case for same sex unions! Progress!



    ^^ This would also be a viable option as it would remove the current discriminatory practice of awarding benefits to someone just because of their inclusion in a certain group.
    So you agree that gay marriage is a special rights for gays only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    So you agree that gay marriage is a special rights for gays only.
    Well of course "gay marriage" would only include homosexuals, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about "marriage" being a privilege extended to everyone regardless of whether or not they're homosexual or heterosexual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrash View Post
    Well of course "gay marriage" would only include homosexuals, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about "marriage" being a privilege extended to everyone regardless of whether or not they're homosexual or heterosexual.
    No we are talking to extending benefits to homosexuals only not to ALL people.
    All people include sexual and non-sexual couples, also marriage benefits would be tremendous help to related couples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    No we are talking to extending benefits to homosexuals only not to ALL people.
    All people include sexual and non-sexual couples, also marriage benefits would be tremendous help to related couples.
    Marriage rights are extended in all 50 states to non-sexual (opposite sex) couples. Related couples cannot because A) a legal kinship already exists and B) because it requires legitimising/encouraging incest with the ultimate stamp of societal approval.

    You can legalise one thing without legalising another when there are solid reasons for said denial... Such as letting women vote but not removing the age restriction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    No we are talking to extending benefits to homosexuals only not to ALL people.
    All people include sexual and non-sexual couples, also marriage benefits would be tremendous help to related couples.
    Which consenting adult couple would be discriminated against then? Homosexuals are the only ones that are currently unable to marry in many states.

    Non sexual people can, and do, already get married for the financial gain. It happens all the time. Second cousins can, in most places, get married direct relation can cause to much harm to the fetus to be viable.

    If you feel like non sexual family members (I don't know how one could prove they were non sexual but I digress) should get married then please push for that in another forum, this one is about the discrimination same sex couples face.

    Most gay people want marriage for the financial gain, if they did they would marry a friend (which is legal) instead they want the emotional commitment and protections that come along with marriage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    So you agree that gay marriage is a special rights for gays only.
    apparently, not only can you not speak/type english, you can't read it either.

    Nowhere in the post you quoted does he even remotely say any such thing.
    it really sucks to be a birther

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    No we are talking to extending benefits to homosexuals only not to ALL people.
    YOU keep talking about that. NOBODY else here is.
    All people include sexual and non-sexual couples, also marriage benefits would be tremendous help to related couples.
    sexual and non-sexual couples can currently marry. not sure what your point is here.
    it really sucks to be a birther

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    No we are talking to extending benefits to homosexuals only not to ALL people.
    All people include sexual and non-sexual couples, also marriage benefits would be tremendous help to related couples.
    Who said anything about sexual couples?

    Platonic same sex couples could marry.
    I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying lets remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris Faction View Post
    Who said anything about sexual couples?

    Platonic same sex couples could marry.
    Related couples can't marry.

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