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    And then there's simply..

    "It neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket"


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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    They are exactly 100% similarly situated.
    not even close.
    Kinship does not provide equivalent benefits.
    its not designed to.
    Learn the material before making uneducated conclusions.
    i asked you before to look up the definition of irony. looks like you didn't.
    it really sucks to be a birther

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    Sterile people have nothing to do either with marriage or with purpose of marriage.
    yet they can marry. thats the point, and why your arguments are self defeating.
    You have failed to provide the reason why special rights reserved for married couples should be extended to homosexuals.
    nonsense. the reason has been provided countless times. EQUAL RIGHTS.
    it really sucks to be a birther

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    They are exactly 100% similarly situated.
    Kinship does not provide equivalent benefits.
    Learn the material before making uneducated conclusions.
    No they're not. Not even close. One is denied on the basis of their gender/sexuality, the other is denied because of a common-sense unavoidable link to incest and the legitimisation thereof. One is based on romantic love and pair-bonding, the other, well.. Not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilMay View Post
    No they're not. Not even close. One is denied on the basis of their gender/sexuality, the other is denied because of a common-sense unavoidable link to incest and the legitimisation thereof. One is based on romantic love and pair-bonding, the other, well.. Not.
    Find a law that describes what rights are denied and present it to the public.
    Also please find me a law that regulates common sense, love and pair bonding.
    Let me know if you have any success.

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    yet they can marry. thats the point, and why your arguments are self defeating.

    nonsense. the reason has been provided countless times. EQUAL RIGHTS.
    I have told you learn the math.

    Group A, B, C are divided by sexuality


    Group A = special rights
    Group B = no special rights
    Group C = no special rights

    Group A+B = special rights.
    Group C = no special rights

    Question!
    What it is a reason to award special right to group B?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    Find a law that describes what rights are denied and present it to the public.
    Also please find me a law that regulates common sense, love and pair bonding.
    Let me know if you have any success.
    There's no law that literally spells it out, but each law (such as the prohibition of incest, bestiality and pedophilia) has a reasoning behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreo View Post
    I have told you learn the math.

    Group A, B, C are divided by sexuality


    Group A = special rights
    Group B = no special rights
    Group C = no special rights

    Group A+B = special rights.
    Group C = no special rights

    Question!
    What it is a reason to award special right to group B?
    Already been spelled out. The same reason sterile couples can marry.
    Last edited by DevilMay; Jan 07 2012 at 07:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilMay View Post
    Already been spelled out. The same reason sterile couples can marry.
    Your logic is flawed.
    Sterile couples can marry because they belong to certain group. Regulation and licensing of opposite sex couples has nothing to do with their sterility.
    Sterility of individual couple as well as ability of individual couple to procreate has nothing to do with marriage institution.
    Please provide an example of regulation of licensing that target concrete individuals but not a group of people.
    Please also provide an example of regulation that has been changed because some of the individuals have certain characteristics that have no relevance to the regulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilMay View Post
    There's no law that literally spells it out, but each law (such as the prohibition of incest, bestiality and pedophilia) has a reasoning behind it.
    Ok, if there is no law then your failed.
    You have not been able to present any evidence that incest has any relevance to a marriage.
    Remember you want to remove a link between marriage and procreation. If link is removed incest, bestiality or pedophilia has no relevance to marriage.
    Last edited by kreo; Jan 07 2012 at 08:02 AM.

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