Yes...well...this is debatable. however i never said that they dont have children. i merely stated that i believe there should be a special place reserved for classical marriage.

My point is -- why? The reasons you gave do not logically exclude gay marriage.

What is the feature of marriage that must be protected and cannot include gay marriage?

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We have families with adopted children. We have bi-racial children. Love makes a family.

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Originally Posted by Inferno You just don't relate to my sense of humor. How about this. Gosh darn funny man living in a whale. doncha know that gawd could do that I betcha he could. wink wink.

What I have quite enjoyed is a poster saying they favor 'classical marriage'.

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Originally Posted by Inferno You just don't relate to my sense of humor. How about this. Gosh darn funny man living in a whale. doncha know that gawd could do that I betcha he could. wink wink.

Well yea, but remember gays are incapable of love. Why? They are gross and disgusting. Ewww.

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i believe... and feel free to check me on this because im no biblical scholar, that most religions really dislike the gay marriage ideal. and our country was built upon judeo-christian principles. and just a guess... you're going to say "seperation of church and state"... am i right? well i did some digging and, funny factoid of the day, the constitution doesn't mention seperation of church and state, thats actually a common misconception planted most likely by Thomas Jefferson.

So gays should be excluded simply because some religions don't like them? No actual logical reason necessary?

Nope, I just think that government policy should have a rational basis -- especially when that government policy involves discrimination in the distribution of rights and benefits. And I have yet to see a rational basis for banning gays from getting married.

Even if you believe that marriage is a "pillar of society", you have to articulate why letting gays get married threatens that pillar; otherwise the "pillar of society" belief doesn't work as an argument against gay marriage.

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oh, that evil, evil man!

As far as your wanting something to elevate heterosexual marriage, though, why not just let anyboy get married, but still give churches the option of marrying only who they allow to be married? One church doesn't like gay marriage , they say no. Another is cool with it, they say yes. Anybody who doesn't want religion involved at all doesn't have to.

That way, if you wanted to feel superior and all, you could get your props from telling people you got married in a restrictive church, and that would mean something to those who shared your beliefs.

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