Thread: Gays have a disease, what about it?

Originally Posted by Mr. Swedish Guy

Sure they can but they won't because they are not attracted to the other sex to begin with.

Did you miss what I just said? They do reproduce. There are many gay men and women who have their own biological children.

You must be unaware, but in this day and age there is more than one way to reproduce without having sex.

Originally Posted by Mr. Swedish Guy

I'll just say you are doging it or missing the point completely. It's like saying we shouldn't call down's syndrome (No I'm not saying gays are retarded, it's just an example) a disorder (or whatever is the propoer term, genetic disease or what else. Really don't care to look it up, doesn't matter anyways) but simply down's syndrome.

Would you call being blonde-haired being blond-haired, or would you call it a disorder?

It takes a judgment, sometimes arbitrary to decide what variances we will and will not call a "disorder". And if we want to go down that path, have deficiencies in their retina and skin pigmentation that causes them to be at greater risk of blindness and skin cancer. Shall we call this a disease? Maybe we should... but diseases are often judged by some arbitrary standard based on the distress they cause and the inability to adjust effectively. You can have a deficiency or variance of some nature, this doesn't mean you are distressed and can't live a happy, well adjusted life. Blondes use more sunscreen, problem solved. (and homosexuals use artificial insemination, problem solved)

Downs is certainly a distressful condition that can't be easily coped with, where the individual is severely disadvantaged relative to their peers, often being severely mentally challenged. Do you consider homosexuality to be a distressful and disadvantaged condition, anything like downs syndrom? If your are asserting that everyone absolutely should and must partner with the opposite sex and reproduce, otherwise they will fail in society and suffer serious distress, then I suppose you could call it a disease along the same lines as Downs... but that's kinda a rediculous position, I've never heard of anyone calling anyone "diseased" for not reproducing by choice.

Many heterosexuals don't reproduce. Many use contraceptives. And even many gay people reproduce, biologically and artificially. Both homosexuals and heterosexuals often have sex in ways that won't lead to reproduction... for heterosexuals, it involves the use of contraceptives, vasectomies and the like. For homosexuals, it involves having sex with the same gender. Calling one diseased while the other normal seems like a bit of a double standard. Failure to reproduce is not a condition I've heard anyone describe another as "diseased" for except when they talk about homosexuals... and the irony of that being, that many homosexuals do indeed reproduce, biologically and artificially.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

Did you miss what I just said? They do reproduce. There are many gay men and women who have their own biological children.

You must be unaware, but in this day and age there is more than one way to reproduce without having sex.

No, I tought it would be obvious that I didn't include that way since it's not, as I hope you understand, not very natural.

Originally Posted by Mr. Swedish Guy

No, I tought it would be obvious that I didn't include that way since it's not, as I hope you understand, not very natural.

There are ways that heterosexual couples have children that are "not very natural" as well. So, what are you saying?

Originally Posted by MisLed

It's a choice. Perhaps in some cases made on a primitive level, so primitive that they think they were born that way.

It's a sin. is all. Like any other sin that others are tempted by. They're no less loved by God, they just have a difficult time avoiding this sin and temptation because society makes it easy for them to give in. Society is an enabler and worse in these instances.

Right, we should be crafting our laws based on the bible! Goodbye shellfish! Goodbye working on Sunday!

Or, are you just another pick & chooser who feels that only the biblical principles you like should apply, and the ones you don't, shouldn't?

Originally Posted by Mr. Swedish Guy

No, I tought it would be obvious that I didn't include that way since it's not, as I hope you understand, not very natural.

So heterosexual people should not be allowed to use these options to reproduce either?

Originally Posted by Mr. Swedish Guy

No, I tought it would be obvious that I didn't include that way since it's not, as I hope you understand, not very natural.

The word "natural" means that it occurs in nature, which homosexuality does, meaning that homosexuality and heterosexuality are both "natural".

Originally Posted by Junkieturtle

The word "natural" means that it occurs in nature, which homosexuality does, meaning that homosexuality and heterosexuality are both "natural".

Yep. Yes.

It is a fact that homosexuality is the product of disease of the mind. As a matter of fact, all abhorrent behavior is a product of the same. This disease can be easily eradicated with knowledge of Allah, self and your responsibilities as man and mankind on this planet.

Originally Posted by Alif Qadr

It is a fact that homosexuality is the product of disease of the mind.

No. That "fact" is that you just made-up the BS commentary above. Come on, be real.

As a matter of fact, all abhorrent behavior is a product of the same.

That YOU and some others see a person's sexual-orientation as something "abhorrent", is YOUR problem to deal with. Please, get THAT through your head.

This disease can be easily eradicated...

I generally expect 'fools' to believe that is true. I'm almost absolutely certain, that you'll have a civil war on your hands... if you try to 'eradicate' "homosexuality".

...with knowledge of Allah,...

Look, YOU believe and think you know "Allah"; got it. But reality say that you cannot, nor will you ever be successful in convincing all other human beings to adhere to your beliefs or your 'god'. Please, accept reality.

self and your responsibilities as man and mankind on this planet.

There are literally billions of beliefs and perceptions of "self" walking this planet. Mankind represents some who are Muslim, Muslim-Fundamentalist, Christian, Christian-Fundamentalists Buddhist, agnostic, atheist etc... and there are HUMAN BEINGS in EVERY ONE of those categories who are homosexual OR advocate and fight for those who happen to be.

So, what the hell are you trying to say here?!