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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd View Post
    The problem is that when SSM becomes legal and accepted (tolerated) here such couples will face overt bigotry and discrimination when they try to travel aboard. People in other countries might engage in violence against them.
    I don't see the relevance. Sadly, this kind of thing is an issue anyway and the US (or US States) recognising them as legally married isn't going to make any difference.

    It's also worth noting that there are a fair few countries where homosexuals are probably less likely to be discriminated against or physically attacked than in the USA.


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    Not buying this poll at all. The people have made their REAL feelings quite clear every time this subject makes a ballot. ZSupport is so high...except when it's time to cast the only opinion that matters, at the ballot boxes.
    Last edited by RichT2705; May 23 2012 at 09:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichT2705 View Post
    Not buying this poll at all. The people have made their REAL feelings quite clear every time this subject makes a ballot. ZSupport is so high...except when it's time to cast the only opinion that matters, at the ballot boxes.
    That's because old people vote religiously, young people do not.

    The poll is a trustworthy source of American public opinion, which is not necessarily voters' public opinion. Voters skew older and more conservative than the public as a whole.

    Anyway, polls and votes are irrelevant. Civil rights are not up for a vote. I don't care what the South thinks. Eventually, they'll be told gays are people, just like they had to be told blacks are people, and they'll take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya View Post
    Until the supreme court forced your beloved bigoted southern states to allow it.
    ^^^ BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA




    Conjures up this image of Wallace blocking the doors to Alabama University.
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    I think all the numbers are wrong. How many states did Gay Marriage just lose in?

    (Note: I am alright with Gay Marriage, but would prefer to get government out of it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya View Post
    Until the supreme court forced your beloved bigoted southern states to allow it.

    ...if you need to force it then it's not really accepted now, is it?...I have said this too many times to count, if the majority WAS FOR same-sex marriage then it would have already been voted into law...but it hasn't so it's not as accepted as you think...my golden rule is this, it doesn't matter what I tell you openly in public if I do the complete opposite in a voting booth in private...wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabuki Joe View Post
    ...if you need to force it then it's not really accepted now, is it?...I have said this too many times to count, if the majority WAS FOR same-sex marriage then it would have already been voted into law...but it hasn't so it's not as accepted as you think...my golden rule is this, it doesn't matter what I tell you openly in public if I do the complete opposite in a voting booth in private...wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!...


    Kabuki Joe
    It doesn't matter if 100% is against it. Rights are not to be voted on ever. Gay marriage is coming and you will like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatcherOfTheGate View Post
    The reason conservatives are freaking out about gays is because they know they have lost the battle so they are throwing a temper tantrum. They are on the losing side of most social issues and are having a hard time dealing with the reality that most people under the age of 35 don't want to dictate how adults conduct their personal lives.

    They are having a harder and harder time using the government to force their bigoted believes on the rest of society.

    ...wait, wut?...are we talking about conservatives or liberals?...



    Kabuki Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabuki Joe View Post
    ...if you need to force it then it's not really accepted now, is it?...I have said this too many times to count, if the majority WAS FOR same-sex marriage then it would have already been voted into law...but it hasn't so it's not as accepted as you think...my golden rule is this, it doesn't matter what I tell you openly in public if I do the complete opposite in a voting booth in private...wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!...


    Kabuki Joe
    Racial segregation is still not accepted in parts of the south. If the it was put to a vote in the south Jim Crow laws would still be in effect.

    We have a constitution in this country...wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullsLawDan View Post
    That's because old people vote religiously, young people do not.

    The poll is a trustworthy source of American public opinion, which is not necessarily voters' public opinion. Voters skew older and more conservative than the public as a whole.

    Anyway, polls and votes are irrelevant. Civil rights are not up for a vote. I don't care what the South thinks. Eventually, they'll be told gays are people, just like they had to be told blacks are people, and they'll take it.
    Well, in the end we'll have to just wait and see.

    It could be that young people will come out for this...or maybe they wont. The talk of the future is very speculative.

    A society has a right to decide exactly what it's going to be. What we can see right now, is that America says no, resoundingly everytime they see it on the ballot.

    And yes, everything is up to a vote. The very "civil rights" you mention werent passed down from a magic mountain. People got together and decided what works for our society, the same society that is now saying Gay marriage doesnt work for us.
    Last edited by RichT2705; May 23 2012 at 09:32 AM.

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