View Poll Results: Should a child be able to get reparative therapy if s/he desires it?

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  • No, once gay, no matter how they got there, stay there.

    10 35.71%
  • Maybe, if the child was molested and has compulsions from that.

    1 3.57%
  • Yes, any therapy chosen by the patient should be availible

    12 42.86%
  • Yes, I thought anyone could choose any type of orientation they want, even to change it.

    5 17.86%
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Thread: Breaking Current Event California Makes Elective Reparative Therapy Illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colombine View Post
    You missed an option in your poll:

    Reparative therapy has no clinical basis and should not be sold as if it has.
    This is quite true.


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    Apparently you believe that straights can go gay but gays can't go straight. If an individual child has UNWANTED homosexual compulsive behavior as a result of being molested, that child MAY NOT receive any therapy by law in California that attempts to rid him of HIS OWN UNWANTED homosexual compusions. ie: if you're a boy or girl molested by a male or female respectively and show the classic acting-out signs of that imprintation in unwanted homosexual compulsions, then you MAY NOT receive any therapy in California to help you rid yourself of those compulsions until you turn 18...and by then they will be so completely ingrained as to be part of your character. The hoped-for result of this legislation undoubtedly.

    You wonder why people are so-called homophobic; wonder no more.. Oh, and you're required to emulate homosexuality in schools there too kids. And the main hero of that movement was a gay man who preyed on drug-addicted and mentally ill youngsters. California. Don't go there until they clean up their act. Couldn't be simpler. Let them stand by their "morals" with their money...or lack of it..
    Last edited by Silhouette; May 31 2012 at 02:06 PM.
    HARVEY MILK Open, unapologetic and documented sodomizer of a drug-addicted, mentally ill 16 year old minor boy, and written in law who "embodies the GLBT movement". In California, kids are mandated to hold celebrations in his honor in schools. Harvey Milk promoted gay promiscuity [and therefore AIDS] and it was documented by his close gay friend and biographer Randy Shilts that Milk "always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse issues."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    Apparently you believe that straights can go gay but gays can't go straight.
    No, one does not go from straight to gay or gay to straight. One suppresses the other until a point.

    If an individual child has UNWANTED homosexual compulsive behavior as a result of being molested, that child MAY NOT receive any therapy by law in California that attempts to rid him of HIS OWN UNWANTED homosexual compusions. ie: if you're a boy or girl molested by a male or female respectively and show the classic acting-out signs of that imprintation in unwanted homosexual compulsions, then you MAY NOT receive any therapy in California to help you rid yourself of those compulsions until you turn 18...and by then they will be so completely ingrained as to be part of your character. The hoped-for result of this legislation undoubtedly.
    They may receive sexual counseling by a psychiatric expert as per state requirement, probably.

    You wonder why people are so-called homophobic; wonder no more.. Oh, and you're required to emulate homosexuality in schools there too kids. And the main hero of that movement was a gay man who preyed on drug-addicted and mentally ill youngsters. California. Don't go there until they clean up their act. Couldn't be simpler. Let them stand by their "morals" with their money...or lack of it..
    Pure ignorance or trolling, not sure what your posts are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    Apparently you believe that straights can go gay but gays can't go straight.
    I know what I believe quite well without your twisted and distorted projections clouding up the picture. I make my case clearly and succinctly and plain for all to see. It doesn't need you spicing things up or making up your own facts and attributing them to me.

    If an individual child has UNWANTED homosexual compulsive behavior as a result of being molested, that child MAY NOT receive any therapy by law in California that attempts to rid him of HIS OWN UNWANTED homosexual compusions.
    Rubbish, if a child has issues relating to sex abuse of course he can be treated by a licensed therapist. This is about parents taking their kids to quacks because THEY have issues with their child's sexuality and want to fix their gay son or daughter which modern, accredited, medicine unanimously understands cannot be done.

    ie: if you're a boy or girl molested by a male or female respectively and show the classic acting-out signs of that imprintation in unwanted homosexual compulsions, then you MAY NOT receive any therapy in California to help you rid yourself of those compulsions until you turn 18
    Nonsense, children who have been molested have no barrier to receiving appropriate medical help.

    You wonder why people are so-called homophobic; wonder no more..
    Yes I honestly do wonder why some people can be so shockingly homophobic and no one more so than you as you have demonstrated at every turn.
    TEAMOSIL:
    It's like if I quoted the American Nazi Party and tried to claim that they're the definitive source of information about Jews because they're the ones "dealing with the problem"...

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    No, one does not go from straight to gay or gay to straight. One suppresses the other until a point.
    Catenaccio, so if you've suppressed being straight as a "gay person" then it's OK to get reparative therapy to help you adjust back into the world of "straight" that you were born to be? Or does that only work the other way around? Would you say that lipstick lesbians [attracted to butch lesbians] and tough gays or "top" gays attracted to feminine "bottom" gays would be excellent candidates for this suppressed realization later on? I would..

    Ok so bear in mind that now in California if you're say a boy and molested at age 8 or 9 and have unwanted compulsive sexual attraction to males by age say 12 or 13 that you don't want anymore, you cannot get therapy to change that. Period.

    But THIS type of 'therapy' is legal in California...the pre-genital mutilation collective-delusion induction therapy inflicted on kids as young as 11, with chemical alteration legally prescribed by doctors no less of a child's natural gender [what they see between their legs]. All you need is a permission slip from parents to get the ball rolling. [ You can't get help for the molested boy's unwanted homosexual compulsion though even with parental permission..by law..]

    [I know it's confusing but here's the actual legal sexually-related therapy a child can get:]


    A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.

    The couple’s supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender. "This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/17...#ixzz1wULh9j2q
    >> In short the picture is very clear. If you want to change a child from straight to GLBT then all the laws in the world will be on your side and it's "healthy, natural and normal" to do so. But if you try to assist a child to change from LGBT back to straight it's illegal and "immoral, unnatural, and harmful" to do so. So there really isn't promotion of a child's right to his own sexual destiny. This is cult induction, sanctioned by the state of California and nothing less...
    Last edited by Silhouette; May 31 2012 at 02:27 PM.
    HARVEY MILK Open, unapologetic and documented sodomizer of a drug-addicted, mentally ill 16 year old minor boy, and written in law who "embodies the GLBT movement". In California, kids are mandated to hold celebrations in his honor in schools. Harvey Milk promoted gay promiscuity [and therefore AIDS] and it was documented by his close gay friend and biographer Randy Shilts that Milk "always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse issues."

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    You're continuing to lie. No one is saying you cannot get help. No one is preferentially treating one sexual orientation.

    It's a simple legal act of prohibiting a practice widely-criticized by medical professionals with no known medical benefit and well-documented psychological detriments.

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    Repeated sexual trama at an early age especially around puberty causes PTSD, its very simple, kids who are molested are conflicted about the abuse, the pleasure coupled with the trauma and the repeated exposure begins to break down the normal functions within the brain and the child starts down self destructive roads.
    Do not go around saying the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing, it was here first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    Catenaccio, so if you've suppressed being straight as a "gay person" then it's OK to get reparative therapy to help you adjust back into the world of "straight" that you were born to be?
    Reparative therapy does not work and yet you continue to talk about it as if it does ignoring even the one expert who at one point said it might and now retracts even that statement.


    Or does that only work the other way around? Would you say that lipstick lesbians [attracted to butch lesbians] and tough gays or "top" gays attracted to feminine "bottom" gays would be excellent candidates for this suppressed realization later on? I would..
    I know you would but the problem is you don't know what you're talking about.

    Ok so bear in mind that now in California if you're say a boy and molested at age 8 or 9 and have unwanted compulsive sexual attraction to males by age say 12 or 13 that you don't want anymore, you cannot get therapy to change that. Period.
    Repeating a lie doesn't make it any more true. Period.
    TEAMOSIL:
    It's like if I quoted the American Nazi Party and tried to claim that they're the definitive source of information about Jews because they're the ones "dealing with the problem"...

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    Let's see if I'm lying...Here's the statement from the article from the OP. Follow the link for verifying the quote:

    The California Senate on Wednesday [May 30 2012] voted 23-13 to prohibit minors from receiving therapy aimed at changing their sexual orientation.
    Whew! Glad I wasn't lying... Just had to be sure though.. Then I guess helping a child change from straight to gay is also prohibited...as would be the lesbian's boy and urging him to change from a boy to a girl with mutilating surgery and the chemical castration that he's now currently undergoing?
    Last edited by Silhouette; May 31 2012 at 02:31 PM.
    HARVEY MILK Open, unapologetic and documented sodomizer of a drug-addicted, mentally ill 16 year old minor boy, and written in law who "embodies the GLBT movement". In California, kids are mandated to hold celebrations in his honor in schools. Harvey Milk promoted gay promiscuity [and therefore AIDS] and it was documented by his close gay friend and biographer Randy Shilts that Milk "always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse issues."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    Let's see if I'm lying...Here's the statement from the article from the OP. Follow the link for verifying the quote:



    Whew! Glad I wasn't lying... Just had to be sure though.. Then I guess helping a child change from straight to gay is also prohibited...as would be the lesbian's boy and urging him to change from a boy to a girl with mutilating surgery?
    No, you're lying, and you know it:

    This bill seeks to ban a form of junk science known as reparative therapy.

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