Thread: Study: Youngsters of 'gay households' negatively affected

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

Excellent point. Even better, how bad does a relationship have to be to deprive people of parenting rights? Clearly not all homosexuals are bad parents and not all heterosexuals are good parents, even if a lot of both have good or bad qualities. So passing discriminatory laws is not justified, let alone capable of being done.

There's a reason home-studies exist. That's what they're for, and if there's a problem then this is where it must be further addressed. Categorically excluding certain parents based on superficial characteristics is unreasonable, and just begs the question of who else we should ban from parenting.

There are several things the NFSS is not. The NFSS is not a longitudinal study, and therefore cannot attempt to broach questions of causation. It is a cross-sectional study, and collected data from respondents at only one point in time, when they were between the ages of 18 and 39. It does not evaluate the offspring of gay marriages, since the vast majority of its respondents came of age prior to the legalization of gay marriage in several states.

A total of 15,058 current and former members of KN’s KnowledgePanel® were screened and asked, among several other questions, “From when you were born until age 18 (or until you left home to be on your own), did either of your parents ever have a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex?”

This is what is considered a gay or lesbian in this study.

Among those who said their mother had a same-sex relationship, 91% reported living with their mother while she was in the romantic relationship, and 57% said they had lived with their mother and her partner for at least 4 months at some point prior to age 18. A smaller share (23%) said they had spent at least 3 years living in the same household with a romantic partner of their mother’s.

Most of the children did not live full time with their "lesbian" parent.

respondents who reported living in stepfamilies or in single-parent households also exhibit numerous simple statistical differences from IBFs—on nine and 10 out of 14 outcomes,

So, children of divorced "gay or lesbian" parents scored about the same as other children of divorced parents. WOW Shocker!

Researchers sometimes elect to evaluate the outcomes of children of gay and lesbian parents by comparing them not directly to stable heterosexual marriages but to other types of households, since it is often the case—and it is certainly true of the NFSS—that a gay or lesbian parent first formed a heterosexual union prior to “coming out of the closet,” and witnessing the dissolution of that union (Tasker, 2005). So comparing the children of such parents with those who experienced no union dissolution is arguably unfair.

The author of this study says himself that the study is unfair.

Goldberg (2010) aptly asserts that many existing studies were conducted primarily comparing children of heterosexual divorced and lesbian divorced mothers, potentially leading observers to erroneously attribute to parental sexual orientation the corrosive effects of enduring parental divorce. Her warning is well-taken, and it is one that the NFSS cannot entirely mitigate. Yet when compared with other young adults who experienced household transitions and who witnessed parents forming new romantic relationships—for example, stepfamilies—the children of lesbian mothers looked (statistically) significantly different just under 25% of the time (and typically in suboptimal directions). Nevertheless, the children of mothers who have had same-sex relationships are far less apt to differ from stepfamilies and single parents than they are from still-intact biological families.

When comparing similar family structures, similar outcomes occur.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...49089X12000610

Originally Posted by MegadethFan

What you "believe" is really irrelevant to reality. Unless you have some scientific proof your little "fact" is nothing but opinionated bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Most kids would agree with me.

No doubt that in a couple of decades Conservative Christians will be on the defensive trying to argue how children in pedophillia relationships are negetively affected. Liberals in California are already making school children celebrate a NAMBLA supporter.

Make no mistake, Harvey Milk himself marched in San Francisco's "gay" parades along with NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association)

but, as a whole are these kids better off than if they were bounced around in foster care? I do not think anyone would argue that the natural mom and dad is the best environment for kids. Do I believe that some gay couples will try and radically raise kids; absolutely but that's far and few between and we've seen articles of letting Johnny think he's Jane and encouraging it etc. But, IMHO, those cases are as rare as hetero couples raising kids to burn crosses

I do not subscribe to studies which are biased to show kids from gay couple homes are just as secure as kids from natural couple homes any more than I accept studies which show they become damaged goods in gay couple homes.

There will always be a small segment of the population who really should never be parents regradless of whom they sleep with.

Originally Posted by sec

but, as a whole are these kids better off than if they were bounced around in foster care?

Sadly yes, very sadly yes.
I have heard some horrible stories of abuse from the American foster care system.

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