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Old 07-24-2008, 10:01 AM
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The bible is a guide to living as a successful community but not many people take the bible as exact fact and it was created in a time where the understanding of the world was a lot different.

Without using protection having sex with multiple partners would almost certainly cause death and sticking to one virgin partner greatly minimises the risk. I don’t think the Church should just change the bible to fit with modern life and marriages should probably remain between a man and a woman.

As a nationalist I don’t agree with the promotion of difference, gay pride parades and liberalism don’t appeal to me and I believe it fractures a society and causes conflict. I don’t have a problem with homosexuals and individual freedoms but it should not damage the society that individuals are part of. What goes on behind closed doors can and should remain private, community values and common links within that society should be promoted not the difference that fractures it.
How much should gay people hide?

Do you talk about your spouse and or significant other at work?
Should your gay co-workers not do that?

Do you walk hand in hand? Maybe a quick kiss now and then?
Should gay people not be allowed to do that?
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:53 AM
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That really depends on the society in which you live and the people around you.

If you are acting in a way you know others will not like or would be angry about then I would say don’t do it. There is a difference of being homosexual and promoting the fact you are homosexual. Everything can be taken too far and individual freedoms are increasingly being put before community freedoms damaging the society in which people live. The new gay culture is promoting the fact they are different and in many cases they use it as a way of gaining extra freedoms with positive bias saying accept us or else.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:09 PM
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That really depends on the society in which you live and the people around you.

If you are acting in a way you know others will not like or would be angry about then I would say don’t do it. There is a difference of being homosexual and promoting the fact you are homosexual. Everything can be taken too far and individual freedoms are increasingly being put before community freedoms damaging the society in which people live. The new gay culture is promoting the fact they are different and in many cases they use it as a way of gaining extra freedoms with positive bias saying accept us or else.
So gay people should give up their freedoms because others might be offended? It's interesting the way you are so quick to tell others they shouldn't be as free as yourself.
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It's interesting the way you are so quick to tell others they shouldn't be as free as yourself.
It's a lot like the way so many people view the notion of free speech as meaning "I get to say whatever I darn well pease, but you don't."
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Freedom and democracy is not a liberal concept and has been stolen to use against ideology that conflict with its fractured global society.

Liberalism is a very selfish way of living and in my opinion very undemocratic as it takes away representation of the communities that elected the governments in the first place. Why should a vast majority of the population suffer to please an individual especially when it causes conflict and resentment?

It would be far better to promote a strong community that shares common values reducing conflict and giving more individual freedom within that community. The idea that all my personal misfortunes must be paid by others and I can do things that are offensive because it is my human rights is discussing.

Global liberalism and extreme capitalism will end in disaster and when it all collapses people will once again look at what they have in common and reform the individual nations that were destroyed in the liberal process.

The bible did not teach the promotion of difference and selfish sinful living but the promotion of common beliefs and self-sacrifice for others.
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Freedom and democracy is not a liberal concept and has been stolen to use against ideology that conflict with its fractured global society.

Liberalism is a very selfish way of living and in my opinion very undemocratic as it takes away representation of the communities that elected the governments in the first place. Why should a vast majority of the population suffer to please an individual especially when it causes conflict and resentment?

It would be far better to promote a strong community that shares common values reducing conflict and giving more individual freedom within that community. The idea that all my personal misfortunes must be paid by others and I can do things that are offensive because it is my human rights is discussing.

Global liberalism and extreme capitalism will end in disaster and when it all collapses people will once again look at what they have in common and reform the individual nations that were destroyed in the liberal process.

The bible did not teach the promotion of difference and selfish sinful living but the promotion of common beliefs and self-sacrifice for others.
The bible really doesn't teach anything IMO it is no more than the tale Chicken Little.
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The bible really doesn't teach anything IMO it is no more than the tale Chicken Little.
Chicken Little taught me a lot as a child.
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Chicken Little taught me a lot as a child.

That is really great. My mom and dad taught me a lot from the bible as a child. I still use some of it. Doesn't mean I still believe it.
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It's a lot like the way so many people view the notion of free speech as meaning "I get to say whatever I darn well pease, but you don't."
Yeah, that happens on this forum actually. Folks get to be rude, insulting, and hateful and if anyone comments, they get the 'free speech' response--'if you don't like it, go elsewhere'.
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That is really great. My mom and dad taught me a lot from the bible as a child. I still use some of it. Doesn't mean I still believe it.
You have the choice to believe or not. I really don't care, it affects me zero, believe as you choose.
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