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Old 04-25-2008, 08:19 PM
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Default I say why stop at gay marriage?

We should allow polygamy, beastiality, and even prepubescent marriage.


To an extent I'd suggest we permit courting, that is to say if someone below eighteen wants to marry someone eighteen or over, they'll need parental or legal guardian's consent.

And if someone's crazy enough to marry a horse then let them, they're apparently crazy bastards who are stuck sleeping with a horse anyway. Might as well humor them..


And more power to people who can handle a polygamus relationship. I can barely handle one girl. Let alone three or more.. Cause you know when not everyone is sastisfied, little cliques start to form, and that's no fun for you.
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We should allow polygamy, beastiality, and even prepubescent marriage.


To an extent I'd suggest we permit courting, that is to say if someone below eighteen wants to marry someone eighteen or over, they'll need parental or legal guardian's consent.

And if someone's crazy enough to marry a horse then let them, they're apparently crazy bastards who are stuck sleeping with a horse anyway. Might as well humor them..


And more power to people who can handle a polygamus relationship. I can barely handle one girl. Let alone three or more.. Cause you know when not everyone is sastisfied, little cliques start to form, and that's no fun for you.
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We should allow polygamy, beastiality, and even prepubescent marriage.
Now, I hope you are not serious, but if you are...

Polygamy should not be allowed because marriage should be defined to include only TWO people.
Beastiality should not be allowed because animals cannot consent to sex.
Prepubescent marriage should not be allowed because a child cannot consent to sex under law.


As I said, I hope this is just you trying to inject some humour into the debate.
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I hope you are not serious here, but I will quote just one thing here:

Now, I hope you are not serious, but if you are...

Polygamy should not be allowed because marriage should be defined to include only TWO people.
Beastiality should not be allowed because animals cannot consent to sex.
Prepubescent marriage should not be allowed because a child cannot consent to sex under law.


As I said, I hope this is just you trying to inject some humour into the debate.

I have mixed opinions.

About polygamy, there is no reason marriage has to be between two people other than it makes the laws a lot easier to deal with. Polygamy is even popular in the bible which is at least a good historical story.

As for prepubescent marriage, it's just a tough call. Parental permission is an important element, however you always have to ask how much influence and force the parents had on making it happen. For instance, imagine dad wants to arrange a marriage between his 13 year old daughter and his 30 year old friend. Can the child say no? It's not an easy position we would be putting kids in with their parents who might want to force marriage on them. So making such marriages involving children protects the child from his/her parents.

My opinion about marriage is this... it started out not as a legal issue, just a social and religious matter. In this situation, I cold have cared less about arguments of marraige. However, things changed with government started to get involved. Why? I don't buy the "family" argument. We allow child molesters to marry, so obviously marriage is not about family, enough said.

Marriage, as a legal issues, is about money. A married couple is more financially secure than single people. When a married man gets sick, his wife takes care of him. When a man loses his job, his wife still has an income... Marriage is sort of a built in social welfare program for the government. On the other hand, when you are single, you are more likely to need to rely on the state for assistance if something goes sour in your life. This is why I believe financially encourages marriage and discourages divorce. Then there are all the rights that our current legal system requires (for instance, to make medical decisions).

So relating this to a legal marriage between a man and an animal, the animal can not take care of the man if he is sick or make medical decisions for him. So this is how I discredit the legal union of man and animal.

Polygamist introduce complicated legal issues regarding fair tax recognition, insurance benefits, inheritance, etc... I dont think there is anything wrong with polygamy in principle, but it's just complicated to figure out.
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Hmmm new guy.

Place you bets now whether they're actually in opposition to gay marriage and is using these examples to try and catch out people who support gay marriage but not the rest. Or if they actually support all that.



Regardless I'm given the understand that the Man Boy Love Association has some measure of power. I'd expect them to make a run at it.

And at least male animals seem to consent to sex with everything from the lawn tractor to the mailmans leg. So I'm going to expect to see some in that camp making a try for rights and legalization at some point too.
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with gay marriage allowed, it's justifiable to allow marriage between any hole and a man and any kind of stick with a woman!! someone could fall in love with his/her masturbation stuff. we can't deny such rights!!! LOL
maybe there was a reason that God prohibited a man to (*)(*)(*)(*) another man. think about it.
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Then why have legal marriage at all?


Leave it a religious matter. And no, I wasn't trying to be a smartass. I'm just very sexually liberal.

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with gay marriage allowed, it's justifiable to allow marriage between any hole and a man and any kind of stick with a woman!! someone could fall in love with his/her masturbation stuff. we can't deny such rights!!! LOL
maybe there was a reason that God prohibited a man to (*)(*)(*)(*) another man. think about it.
Ah yes, and because gay marriage is an exeption to the current discrimination, anything and everything goes if marriage for this exeption is allowed.

I'm sorry, I can't agree. Discriminantly giving rights to one group, then denying them to anyone else only because some certain cases might be abusive is not a reason to deny rights to anyone else. It's are reason not to give anyone any legal rights at all.


In other words,a person who doesn't think black should be allowed to marry whites could give a similar argument to the one you just gave.

I found this argument given against blacks marrying whites out of the history books:

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Many of the states were outraged with this decision. You see, these laws were created as part of the democratic process. If two people who were of different races made love, it was a misdemeanor as long as they were not married. If they married, it was a felony. The states wanted to protect the sanctity of marriage. The federal circuit court judge cited God in making his decision.

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So how many years am I going to have to wait?

Can I laugh my ass off when your grand kids call you liberals ignorant backward hicks who are living in the past? "Grandpa just doesn't understand love is love!"
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We should allow polygamy, beastiality, and even prepubescent marriage.
That's a terrible, terrible idea..
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So how many years am I going to have to wait?

Can I laugh my ass off when your grand kids call you liberals ignorant backward hicks who are living in the past? "Grandpa just doesn't understand love is love!"
Are you stuart or evelyn marie or both? if you are both I would marry you, "variety the spice of life" I have left horses out for health reasons, I suffer from vertigo, so I kept falling off the ladder! and foals are just to pre-pubesant even for me
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