If being gay is against your religion they why would you want a religious ceremony for your relationship to be acknowledged by a religion?

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What's this i hear bed? Word has it you and Pam are sleeping together.

Gay people aren't asking for a religious ceremony, they just want the same rights and freedoms as straight people.

For example, When straight people get married by a judge it is not a religious ceremony but a civil union. Shouldn't gay people be entitled to the same thing as it is technically a public union to finalize a legally binding contract'?

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Truth is by nature self-evident, as soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear. Gandhi

Thank you! Is the original poster suggesting that even straight people who happen to not be religious should not be allowed to be married either?

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“Been living here in galus for a life too long" - Matisyahu

You know, people in other religions get married too(even in the ages when lots of people didnt even know about christianity. They don't just breed.

If you value religion so much when discussing marriage, do you also support some mormon's belief in polygamy? What makes your ideas of what is right and wrong so much better than someone else's? And what makes you think you should force that system on them?

If it's about legal status of being married then how does it become a matter of separation of the church and the state? I can understand if the church didn't want to marry gays but how can the government denies them legal marriage rights?

Oh and i support gay marriage for all those confused.

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What's this i hear bed? Word has it you and Pam are sleeping together.

I think it absolutely comes down to the separation of church and state. A church has the right to accept or reject whomever it chooses. This country does not have that right when it comes to its citizens. Everyone should be able to marry the person they love and build a life with. Anything else is in violation of the 14th amendment, in my opinion.

Exactly. Religious acceptance is not the issue....at least not for me.

If there asking for the government to recognize there marital status and not the church then the church has no business interfering in government affairs just as the government no business in religious affairs. I'm sorry i misunderstood the situation. Now i'm even more for gay marriage than ever.

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What's this i hear bed? Word has it you and Pam are sleeping together.

This is all silly.

Abolish marriage completely, give everyone the ability to get civil rights with anyone else (18 and older). Religious union should be left to religion, it can be recognized by the state as a title but with no rights. This way, klingon and christians alike can be happy.

Civil unions were discussed in Mass as an alternative and GLAD (and a host of other groups) were against it under the guise that it would cause a permanent second class. Even if those same exact rights were granted. For many it is more than just looking for those rights.

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JMS gets another English lesson:

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there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.

The result:

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By the mid-19th century unique had developed a wider meaning, “not typical, unusual,” and it is in this wider sense that it is compared. The comparison of so-called absolutes in senses that are not absolute is standard in all varieties of speech and writing.