Well it seems as though the stubborn fist of N.Korea is once again causing international problems, there defiance seems unshakable.

The question is what to do, mount another war, risk a potential nuclear showdown, maybe even a showdown with China. Well I think the answer is clear N. Korea has proven to many times already that they cannot be trusted so I believe that diplomacy and politics time is now over.

Why wait? We see what our reluctances to attack evil has gotten us in the past, just look at where we are now. We must go to war with N. Korea before five years down the road from now the problem has got even worse.

I have supported isolation all my life up until now; WAR is the ONLY WAY to end our problems with N. Korea.

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It will work out better to defuse the situation over the next five years than to pretty much ensure every US soldier stationed in South Korea, along with millions in Asia, dies. Not to mention what such a war would do to our already dismal reputation and standing in the world.
The best thing we can do is find a common ground with China to put pressure on North Korea. And in the end, NK is going to need to be brought into the world economy. There is no way Jong Il is dumb enough to attack the US... Some of the warlords that would take his position if the government fell might.
On the radio, I heard the same thing from the guy who served as ambassador to much of Asia under Reagan and Bush Sr. (Lilly, I think).
War should always be a last resort. And in this case there is not an impending danger- only idle threats meant to get our attention.
The situation cannot be ignored and we must ensure that when NK is brought to the table, no reward is seen as coming from its threatening behavior.

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-opening from Tales From the Darkside

"...Those who would trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state have told us that they have a utopian solution of peace without victory. They call their policy "accommodation." And they say if we only avoid any direct confrontation with the enemy, he will forget his evil ways and learn to love us. All who oppose them are indicted as warmongers. They say we offer simple answers to complex problems. Well, perhaps there is a simple answer--not an easy answer--but simple.

If you and I have the courage to tell our elected officials that we want our national policy based upon what we know in our hearts is morally right. We cannot buy our security, our freedom from the threat of the bomb by committing an immorality so great as saying to a billion now in slavery behind the Iron Curtain, "Give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skin, we are willing to make a deal with your slave masters." Alexander Hamilton said, "A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." Let's set the record straight. There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace--and you can have it in the next second--surrender.

Admittedly there is a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson in history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face--that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight and surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand--the ultimatum. And what then?"

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/reag...ech.asp?spid=1

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Thankfully our current leaders are more pragmatic than that (wouldn't know it by their rhetoric).
Admittedly some times people appease too much. Part of good diplomacy is threats and ensuring that we do not give in to scare tactics.
But sparking the possiblity of world violence is not the only solution. We can find a common ground with China and put pressure on North Korea. Meanwhile I think we need to find a way to get information to the North Korean people, the way we did in Russia and Cuba.
I don't recall Reagan dragging us into full-out war with the Soviets. In fact, for all his rhetoric, he did a lot for peace with them.

What we really need to do is get rid of the message we've given that the only safety blanket for a state like Iran or North Korea is a nuclear capacity.
They starve their people to build weapons... we threaten to destroy their people to get rid of those weapons. Either way, we come out smelling bad.
I think we really do have a failure to communicate.

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-opening from Tales From the Darkside

"...You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, "There is a price we will not pay." There is a point beyond which they must not advance. This is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater's "peace through strength." Winston Churchill said that "the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals." And he said, "There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness."

Ronald Wilson Reagan

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A leader, once convinced a particular course of action is the right one, must have the determination to stick with it and be undaunted when the going gets rough -- Ronald Reagan

"...There can be no real peace while one American is dying some place
in the world for the rest of us. We are at war with the most dangerous
enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to
the stars, and it has been said if we lose that war, and in doing so
lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest
astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to
prevent its happening. Well, I think it's time we ask ourselves if we
still know the freedoms that were intended for us by the Founding
Fathers..."

Ronald Wilson Reagan
October 27, 1964

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So, do you have any thoughts of your own on the matter?

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Yeah, I agree with the Original posts, and I was quoting a man who expressed the same sentiments I have held my entire Life, that I can remember.

Why would I try to say something that has been said so well before?

What I WILL add, if you will allow me, is that I believe that if these conflicts continue, and escalate for months to come, you will see a Politician that will likely come to the forefront of these Issues for the Conservative Republican side, and that man is Newt Gingrich. If he continues to espouse the things I heard him say the other night in an interview, there may be some things I don't agree with him on some Issues, but when it comes to this "War" and how we "must fight it", he has shown he is very "Reagan-est" in his views, and quotes him, just as I have and tries to remind us the lessons Reagan taught us about ourselves, and what we had become and what WE expected of OURSELVES.

Conservatives today are largely lost because we haven't found our "Reagan" of this Age, yet... I believe one may actually be stepping forward.

Time will tell.

Regards,
Gaar

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If the US went to war with the North Koreans how do you think our international status would fair? The US at the moment has this image around the world of going around and picking fights with 3rd world nations and never facing up to worthy opponents and a war with this nation would just cement this view. Our image is that of bullying as we never confront any real oppressive regimes like the Saudi's or the Russians or the for that matter the Chinese!!!!

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I would say that, if they fire more Missiles at Hawaii, then we won't care what the World thinks...

Although the latest Vote at the UN says all it needs to, with even China Voting against them.

Regards,
Gaar

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