www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

This site honestly changed my life because it opened my eyes to the harsh reality of the future. Oil is running out at a rapid rate and no form of alternate fuel can replace it.

The author of this site has so much information from administration sources and scientific experts. I thought this was a Y2K wacko site, but when Michael Moore (from one of his books) and the Bush Administration (from Energy Department officials) agree on a peak oil scenario, you know something is wrong.

All of his assertions are well supported which is why this site is so depressing. In fact, this news is so scary that most major media outlets won't report on it.

Take this example: Oil has a 10:1 energy ratio whereas hydrogen LOSES more energy than it makes. Biofuels have very low energy gains and take up land required to produce food. No other alternate fuel can even come close to making the net energy that oil does. Without it, the industrial world is screwed.

No doubt that there is a limited oil supply. But industry will tell you that fields that were once thought depleted can produce again once allowed to "recharge." There are also reserves beyond our wildest dreams in the oceanic strata, though it is far more difficult to harvest. I had professors tell me that we would be out of oil by 2015. They were way off the mark.

Also, the beauty of capitalism will ensure that as the price of oil climbs, so too will the diversity of energy source harvesting. Solar, water, wind, and nuclear have a lot to offer. We're already beginning to see technological and market changes.

The #1 problem is continued population growth which will eventually strip the earth's ability to provide.

I hate to burst your bubble, but none of those can replace oil.

Solar panels require a lot of energy to produce (mainly oil) and are very fickle because of weather. Not to mention we need land to feed our population, so where can we put our solar panels? The desert would be the most obvious choice, but that’d require an even greater expenditure of resources because of the lack of infrastructure in a baron wasteland. Solar still doesn't solve personal transportation, either.

Water power requires the biggest investment of all because you have to rework entire rivers, lakes, etc. to build dams. Tidal energy has already been proven ineffective.

Wind power can have energy returns of 50:1 but would require a massive investment now (while oil is cheap), but, thanks to the beauty of capitalism, that WONT happen because there's no demand. But when there is, we'll be in tough luck because of high oil prices.

Nuclear is safer than widely believed, but requires a tremendous investment of resources and capital. Not to mention the world's uranium reserves will run out by 2025. Again, we need to start build them now to prepare for the upcoming energy crisis, but people don’t want them in their back yard. Tough luck again.

Plus none of the abovementioned are as cheap as oil, replace oil as a production resource for plastics (and other products), and we'd have to build the infrastructure now. Thanks to capitalism, that wont happen until more people wakeup and see that we're about to hit a brick wall.

The most ideal situation would be using wind power to produce hydrogen (which is actually an energy loser because it takes more energy to make it than it returns). However, the idea of a hydrogen economy is mostly a lie (even Daimler-Chrysler said so) because hydrogen can’t be stored very easily in a vehicle and would require reworking the national infrastructure a truly massive scale.

The manner in which the case is presented definately scares even the most critical reader. No matter what arguement you may make against the info, the simple fact is that eventually, we are going to use up all of our resources. And our history shows that we will not deal with this until it blows up in our faces. That is the fact that scares me the most. We have reached the time where we need to change our consumer nature and plan for the inevitable, but the question is how do you get 5 billion consumers to change their ways before it is too late?

-Demosthenes

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Ever think of orbital solar panels? And why couldn't you put solar panels on cars? Surely in the future the necessity of them will cause a sever increase in their efficiency.

I believe we will wake up to wind power before we run too low on oil...

I don't know where you got that statistic - the world's uranium reserves will run out by year 2025?! There is uranium in water and there is 4 times more uranium than silver. Silver hasn't run out and its in a higher demand.

When technology and awareness improves there WILL be far more efficient ways to use and capture hydrogen for energy.

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How would you transfer the energy from solar panels to earth?

And solar-powered cars run very slow, would have to be made of light weight materials, and couldn't run for very long periods of time. Not to mention, you'd never be able to fly a plane or a large ship with just solar energy.

And taking uranium out of water would be very expensive. Desalinating water already costs an arm and a leg, just imagine having to scour for uranium. One day, though, uranium will run out because it has a production bell curve like everything else.

Civilization will adapt and use alternate energy sources, but the survivors will have a drastically reduced standard of life.

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Think future Gian...some genius will come up with an idea.

Solar power alone maybe not (but who knows how effective they will be in the FUTURE), but a hybrid solar and hydrogen? Or solar and wind? The possibilities are wide.

You keep talking about expense. Expense of what? Energy itself? Manpower? Like I said before, in the future things should be more efficient. WE will have scientists' brains floating in jelly to do all the calculations for us. There is always man made plutonium to use...

You underestimate the human desire to live in prosperity...

Darken

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There will be a future like the one you described...after millions die from the oil shock.

People wont wake up and smell the coffee until it's too late. By that time our civilization will start to break down. What emerges will be a new society, but survival of the human species does not mean survival for everyone.

And by expense I mean oil. Oil is the springboard from which EVERY alternate fuel has come from. You need oil to build nuclear plants, oil to build windmills, and oil to build dams. Basically, you need an initial oil investment to start an alternate-fuel economy. By the time we actually start the process, however, oil prices will be through the roof and our economy will be in bad shape. That means other things will have to give way during the transformation period, which is why so many will die.

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WE'RE DOOMED! DOOMED I SAY!!!

It bothers me that we have become programmed to believe that no matter what situation we run into, that some one is going to come up with an ingeuis plan that is going to save the day. Maybe it is the fault of Hollywood with movies like Armageddon, or The Core. But his is reality, and maybe we need to plan for the fact that maybe no one will come up with the ultimate plan to save the world. Because personally, I'd rather plan for the worst and hope for the best than just assume that someone is going to save me.

-Demosthenes

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