Thread: Lying for Islam

I don't support interventionist wars in the ME.

But you are skewing the discussion. Don't bother, it won't wash.
Christian fundies don't have an agende to take over the world and dominate it. Islam DOES.

Christians fundies didn't hijack a bunch of airliners and ram them into buildings.
Islamic Jihadists did that, and all the deflections and parsing of words cannot change that.






this man is prolly the man in the fourth window from the right, in the first picture

I remember the first time, when they bombed the WTC. I watched 9/11 on live TV.

If you think for one minute I will ever forgive, condone, or understand fundie Islam, or trust a Muslim, you are wholly mistaken.

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Originally Posted by riza

Way to go guys.

While some who practice Islam are violent, the vast majority are not.

You guys all need to read "Dying to win" to better understand Islamic terrorism.

And no, even in Islam, it's not about war. It is about tolerance and peace because if you guys actually read the text in Quran, Hadith, and Sunnah, you'll see what it preaches.

Actually read about Islam, won't you guys?

It preaches war and hatred. Unquestionably. And this post I'm responding to here, is a perfect example of the taqiyya lying, that is the topic of this thread.

Originally Posted by Abu Sina

do you also think the men who fly real airplanes and drop bombs on innocent people are also evil? those guys who slaughter children by drones at night in bed?

to me they are also evil

They are doing that against al Qaeda. And they wouldn't be doing it if al Qaeda had not attacked us numerous times. If you ask for war, you get war.

Why does the organized left love the Muslims so? Why do the dems support them above Christians? I'd like to know.

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Why does the organized left love the Muslims so? Why do the dems support them above Christians? I'd like to know.

Anyone have any idea why the dems support the Muslims over Christians and Americans? Why the Ground Zero Mosque was supported by them?

And look at this...

Money funneled by former ‘Ground Zero’ mosque imam to finance lavish lifestyle

The ex-“Ground Zero” imam, his pockets stuffed with donations given to Islamic nonprofits, splurged on a high-flying lifestyle that included expensive trips with a New Jersey gal pal, a stunning new lawsuit charges.

The married Feisal Abdul Rauf fleeced the Malaysian government for $3 million and a Westchester County couple for $167,000, according to a lawsuit filed by the couple, businessman Robert Deak and his wife Moshira Soliman.

The money was given to help Rauf’s two nonprofits, the Cordoba Initiative and the American Society for Muslim Advancement, which work to combat anti-Islamic sentiment.

(more at link)
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2PR19hOZy

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Why does the organized left love the Muslims so? Why do the dems support them above Christians? I'd like to know.

We support the oppressed above the corrupt, not one group over the other. Why do liberals support Muslims and Arabs in general? Because liberalism support the oppressed. We support human rights and basic human dignity regardless of whether or not they simply belong to a race or creed so hastily associated with extremism. The classical liberal ideal is that government should aim to maximize the best interests of the individual and protect the basic will of humanity through methods of cooperation rather than merely fight for the interests of a select few. We must look out for the best interests for all.

Most Muslims look at Al Qaeda the same way that most Christians look at the Westboro Baptist Church. If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion in which we can simply and easily generalize our logic and condemn an entire association of people so we can find a location to place blame and find comfort in the authority of our right wing or centrist nationalist idols. Please watch this, just get past the superficial color of his skin and place of birth. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRKdQSey3Go

Originally Posted by Pale Blue Dot

We support the oppressed above the corrupt, not one group over the other. Why do liberals support Muslims and Arabs in general? Because liberalism support the oppressed. We support human rights and basic human dignity regardless of whether or not they simply belong to a race or creed so hastily associated with extremism. The classical liberal ideal is that government should aim to maximize the best interests of the individual and protect the basic will of humanity through methods of cooperation rather than merely fight for the interests of a select few. We must look out for the best interests for all.

Most Muslims look at Al Qaeda the same way that most Christians look at the Westboro Baptist Church. If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion in which we can simply and easily generalize our logic and condemn an entire association of people so we can find a location to place blame and find comfort in the authority of our right wing or centrist nationalist idols. Please watch this, just get past the superficial color of his skin and place of birth. <<< MOERATOR EDIT: INSULT >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRKdQSey3Go

Perhaps you missed this link

http://tinyurl.com/bsf54c4

I've been paying attention for a long long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baader_Meinhof_Complex

We can't fix what's wrong with them. We can and should defend ourselves.
The Ottoman Empire still lives.

Originally Posted by Pale Blue Dot

We support the oppressed above the corrupt, not one group over the other. Why do liberals support Muslims and Arabs in general? Because liberalism support the oppressed. We support human rights and basic human dignity regardless of whether or not they simply belong to a race or creed so hastily associated with extremism. The classical liberal ideal is that government should aim to maximize the best interests of the individual and protect the basic will of humanity through methods of cooperation rather than merely fight for the interests of a select few. We must look out for the best interests for all.

Most Muslims look at Al Qaeda the same way that most Christians look at the Westboro Baptist Church. If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion in which we can simply and easily generalize our logic and condemn an entire association of people so we can find a location to place blame and find comfort in the authority of our right wing or centrist nationalist idols. Please watch this, just get past the superficial color of his skin and place of birth. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT >>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRKdQSey3Go

You do not speak for all liberals. Many (if not most) liberal Americans support the oppressed but not the oppressors. Muslims are oppressors. Sharia Law and the cause (islam) are a disgusting blight in the history of humanity. Never has a religion been so abusive to human rights as islam is. The only way our species will evolve is when islam becomes a thing of the past. In fact, islam cases the devolution of our species. It has no place, no value, and needs to be eradicated from this planet. Hopefully peacefully, but however it needs to happen it absolutely needs to happen.

Originally Posted by Snappo

You do not speak for all liberals. Many (if not most) liberal Americans support the oppressed but not the oppressors. Muslims are oppressors. Sharia Law and the cause (islam) are a disgusting blight in the history of humanity. Never has a religion been so abusive to human rights as islam is. The only way our species will evolve is when islam becomes a thing of the past. In fact, islam cases the devolution of our species. It has no place, no value, and needs to be eradicated from this planet. Hopefully peacefully, but however it needs to happen it absolutely needs to happen.

Muslims value a civil and peaceful society and they are more interested in the rights of victims than the rights of the accused.