U.S. to Label Iran Revolutionary Guard ‘Terrorists’

DuH2 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-15-2007, 10:59 PM

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The United States will soon be referring to an Iranian military division as a "specially designated global terrorist," a State Department official told FOX News on Wednesday.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps would be targeted in terror financing probes under guidelines established under Executive Order 13224, which President Bush signed nine days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The story on the new targeting was first reported late Tuesday in The Washington Post.

• Click here to read The Washington Post story.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...401662_pf.html

The executive order states that a designated terror group "has committed, or poses a significant risk of committing, acts of terrorism that threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States."

This would be the first time a national military branch would be included on the list of terrorist organizations, which is usually reserved for non-state terror organizations and their associates.

"What we have to understand here is the Revolutionary Guards are 'Murder Incorporated,'" former Ambassador Mark Ginsberg told FOX News. He said that the Guard, which serves directly under and reports to the Iranian president, is "an army within an army" that runs the other branches of the armed services as well as building construction contracting within the country and international arms deals, among other industries.

The Revolutionary Guard boasts such veterans as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and many Iranian business leaders.

"Cutting off their finances could in effect hurt them," Ginsberg said, adding that the United States decided to freeze the Guard's bank assets in part because the United Nations was unwilling to impose more sanctions.

• Click here to see the Treasury Department's full list of organizations targeted under Executive Order 13224 (.pdf).
http://www.treasury.gov/offices/enfo...ror/terror.pdf

The Bush administration had been weighing whether to target the Revolutionary Guard Corps in full, or only the Quds Force, which the U.S. claims is responsible for the increase in improvised explosive devices, rockets and other arms used by Shiite militias in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293285,00.html

Long overdue but ultimately worthless.

The only worth it may have is the precursor to a chain of events that lead to military strikes n Irans nuclear capablities/this miliary group/and ltimately the regime itself.

Anything short of that that does not result in similar endings is just further testimony to how the westerner talks tough but is simply not even worth listening to.

Wildbore · #2 (**permalink**) 08-18-2007, 02:37 AM

This labellling of the Revolutionary Guard as terrorists could be hurtful to the discussions the US and Iran have been participating in. We don't know how much progress has been made in the talks, but this pretty much guarantees all of it would be wiped out.

I wonder how these "Iranian" improvised explosive devices ended up in the hands of Shiite terrorists. Probably the same way US-made M16 rifles ended up in the hands of Kurdish rebels in Turkey and Iran.

greatamerican128 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-18-2007, 09:44 AM

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This labellling of the Revolutionary Guard as terrorists could be hurtful to the discussions the US and Iran have been participating in. We don't know how much progress has been made in the talks, but this pretty much guarantees all of it would be wiped out.

I wonder how these "Iranian" improvised explosive devices ended up in the hands of Shiite terrorists. Probably the same way US-made M16 rifles ended up in the hands of Kurdish rebels in Turkey and Iran.

Who said we wanted talk with him anymore?

At this point it is very clear it is nearly impossible to talk or negotionate with ackmedenijad. You cannot negotiate with someone who denies the holocaust existed.

justabubba · #4 (**permalink**) 08-18-2007, 10:39 AM

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This labellling of the Revolutionary Guard as terrorists could be hurtful to the discussions the US and Iran have been participating in.

this might very well undermine any prospects for success thru dialog. recall the events prior to the iraq invasion. we gave instructions to saddam we did not attempt to engage him ... no leader can survive by accepting that kind of loss of face. in short, do not presume this administration is actually seeking a diplomatic resolution. dicknbush seem to want to fabricate another justification for another war

here is an interesting article to illustrate why war is not the appropriate weapon to effect regime change in iran
http://regimechangeiniran.com/2005/0...-can-win-iran/
here is an excerpt:

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Ironically, the same forces of frustration and disillusion that have fueled radical Islamist opposition movements in many Arab countries are working against the Islamist regime in Iran.

we do not need to unite the secular opposition with the extremists - which will be the case in a war against iran. if we can just keep dubya bin lyin from pulling the trigger during his watch, we will be able to move iran in our direction thru diplomacy (and by providing covert assistance to the internal opposition). this is a ripe time for change in iran

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